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Ok, i should have clarified why you should use the latest development builds:
1. They contain 100s of bug fixes, including freezes in zelda games and possibly issues with the frame limit
2. They are faster
3. They are the only builds which you get support for
4. They are the only builds in development. Which means that reporting bugs in the development builds helps fixing them. Reporting bugs in other builds will be ignored, even if your issue happens everywhere.

(there are possibly more reasons)

Quote:He's not being anal about it, you posted looking for help and those were two of the suggestions he had. Just because you have Windows 7, does that mean you don't have or won't get any of the updates released for it, because according to your logic, the first release of 7 is "enough"?

Actually, my logic is that the latest release of Windows 7 is enough, and you guys are trying to get me to upgrade to Windows 10, which hasn't had most of the bugs sorted out yet, and also isn't complatible with everything yet. Sure, Windows 7 is "outdated", but Windows 8 is terrible, Windows 8.1 is only marginally better, and Windows 10 is too new for me to feel safe in it, not to mention the fact that it still isn't better user-wise than Windows 7. I know that there's people out there that refuse to upgrade from XP, and I get where they're coming from.

Quote:I am sorry for coming off harsh, but it's because it's how your posts are.

I just don't like it when people rant about my computer sucking, especially when I know it sucks, rather than trying to help me fix this random problem that popped up. It irritates me. Yes, I know my CPU is "outdated" (Apparently, anything older than a year is old, so I'm ancient.)

Quote:I get the latest experimental for Dolphin every few months; in fact I just downloaded 4.0-8197 yesterday. My previous version is -7751, nearly 450 revisions between the two (less are available for download as multiple revisions can get merged in some cases; I'm not certain how or why but they are and I'd imagine it's when multiple revisions are put up nearly simultaneously.)

See, I don't have nearly that kind of devotion, I'd just rather use the stable builds, because I don't have to/want to update every week.

Quote:On to your issues:

Have you checked to make sure your .iso file wasn't corrupted? I don't know the proper MD5 checksums offhand but there's others here who do and if you post yours it can at least rule out that issue.

I personally don't know much else but this at least can be a start. And worst comes to worst I can compare your MD5 to mine (assuming same game version, there were multiple versions released. I believe there's GC 1.0 and 1.2; there may be a 1.1 but I don't know for sure)

Finally, something other than telling me my CPU is old when I can manage to run MGS3 on it with little slowdown.

I highly doubt my iso is corrupt, this happens in multiple games, though it tends to happen WHILE I'm playing, not before. I wouldn't even know how to check it's MD5 sum anyways.

I do have a log of the crash, maybe that will help.

(11-21-2015, 11:48 PM)mimimi Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, i should have clarified why you should use the latest development builds:
1. They contain 100s of bug fixes, including freezes in zelda games and possibly issues with the frame limit
2. They are faster
3. They are the only builds which you get support for
4. They are the only builds in development. Which means that reporting bugs in the development builds helps fixing them. Reporting bugs in other builds will be ignored, even if your issue happens everywhere.

(there are possibly more reasons)

If this is the case, why even HAVE the stable builds in the first place, especially if they're not even stable? It defeats the whole point of having stable releases.

EDIT: Okay, got the latest dev build...aaaaaaaand it decided to change my backend settings to OpenGL. Switch it back to D3D (Apparently there's no choice between 11 and 9 anymore), and video works. Now the audio has disappeared.

What the hell happened between 3.5-367 and 4.0.2 that made the game not work at all? Craziness.

Well, I'll fiddle around with the settings, try to get the sound to work again. They really need to get rid of stable builds altogether.

(11-22-2015, 08:00 AM)ShylokVakarian Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, my logic is that the latest release of Windows 7 is enough, and you guys are trying to get me to upgrade to Windows 10, which hasn't had most of the bugs sorted out yet, and also isn't complatible with everything yet.  Sure, Windows 7 is "outdated", but Windows 8 is terrible, Windows 8.1 is only marginally better, and Windows 10 is too new for me to feel safe in it, not to mention the fact that it still isn't better user-wise than Windows 7.  I know that there's people out there that refuse to upgrade from XP, and I get where they're coming from.

We are not asking you to upgrade to Windows 10, we are asking you to upgrade to the latest version of Dolphin, which in general does have better usability and compatibility and less bugs than 4.0.2. The analogy wasn't even about updating to Windows 10, it was about having the latest updates for Windows 7 (e.g. service packs).

(11-22-2015, 08:00 AM)ShylokVakarian Wrote: [ -> ]See, I don't have nearly that kind of devotion, I'd just rather use the stable builds, because I don't have to/want to update every week.

Not updating every week is fine, but you should use builds that are up to a few months old rather than one that's about two years old.

(11-22-2015, 08:00 AM)ShylokVakarian Wrote: [ -> ]I highly doubt my iso is corrupt, this happens in multiple games, though it tends to happen WHILE I'm playing, not before.  I wouldn't even know how to check it's MD5 sum anyways.

Yeah, it doesn't sound like an ISO problem to me either. However, it can still be useful to check the MD5, because it doesn't take long to do (as long as you're using a recent enough Dolphin version - 4.0.2 doesn't have the MD5 calculation feature).

(11-22-2015, 08:00 AM)ShylokVakarian Wrote: [ -> ]If this is the case, why even HAVE the stable builds in the first place, especially if they're not even stable?  It defeats the whole point of having stable releases.

That's a good point. Many agree that the current situation isn't good, but doing something about it isn't as easy, no matter whether it is trying to get through the 5.0 feature freeze or coming up with a new release model. I'm afraid I can't give a better reason for it than that.

(11-22-2015, 08:00 AM)ShylokVakarian Wrote: [ -> ][...]

(11-21-2015, 11:48 PM)mimimi Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, i should have clarified why you should use the latest development builds:
1. They contain 100s of bug fixes, including freezes in zelda games and possibly issues with the frame limit
2. They are faster
3. They are the only builds which you get support for
4. They are the only builds in development. Which means that reporting bugs in the development builds helps fixing them. Reporting bugs in other builds will be ignored, even if your issue happens everywhere.

(there are possibly more reasons)

If this is the case, why even HAVE the stable builds in the first place, especially if they're not even stable?  It defeats the whole point of having stable releases.

EDIT: Okay, got the latest dev build...aaaaaaaand it decided to change my backend settings to OpenGL.  Switch it back to D3D (Apparently there's no choice between 11 and 9 anymore), and video works.  Now the audio has disappeared.

What the hell happened between 3.5-367 and 4.0.2 that made the game not work at all?  Craziness.

Well, I'll fiddle around with the settings, try to get the sound to work again.  They really need to get rid of stable builds altogether.

DirectX 9 support was dropped, because it did not support important features:
https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2013/10/12/...ns-future/

About your audio problems, have you tried using xaudio as backend? Did you check the volume setting inside Dolphin? Some settings might not be properly imported from old versions.

If nothing works, restart your config from scratch. Rename your Dolphin folder in your Windows User Documents folder to Dolphin.backup or something. That should clear all settings and use the default values. Then copy everything important from your backup to the new folder, like your gamecube memory card and the Wii folder(containing the virtual wii nand, which means your wii saves among other stuff).

The problem is that the stable/development version model only works with projects that progress slowly. Dolphin has so many active developers that huge progress gets made in only a few months, which means that groundbreaking new features get introduced mere weeks after a new stable version finally comes out, thus make it obsolete almost instantly. At this point I'm quite surprised anyone is even talking about 5.0 at all; it seems like 4.0.2 should be removed from the download page and there should only be development versions shown, as 5.0 will be just as "bad" as 4.0.2 six months after it comes out, unless there's a huge drop in developer interest.

I just realized how much harder it is to emulate Wii and GCN Games instead of N64 games :O.

Im playing the GCN version (US) of TP rightnow on Dolphin 4.0-8393.. At least im trying. I got multiple issues...:

- In the Dev. Version of Dolphin my FPS is about 6, in the stable one 30 plus.. how?


- My Maps and Screen show a LOT of fractures... or strange colors.. (see attachment)


I actually wanted to play the Wii-Version but im not sure about my Logitech Controller handling that whole wii stuff..

can someone help me ._.?

Check your framelimit and set it (back) to auto. Going from the stable to the latest dev had the audio option removed and it'll be set to what comes after it.

lol so the newest dev. version does not support "audio-fps" ?
it was set to 5 ... xD

(12-04-2015, 05:11 AM)NexusEvangelion Wrote: [ -> ]lol so the newest dev. version does not support "audio-fps" ?
it was set to 5 ... xD

Yep, if you have audio enabled and update it will switch to 5 FPS.

Audio was buggy and thus removed. Right click on the game in the game list on the dev build, and go to Properties, and enable the Hyrule Speed Patch.