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Shonumi Wrote:Not sure if you mentioned this earlier, but what kind of workloads do have on your setup? It's always fascinating hearing how people put top-tier hardware to use. Oh jeez, this is hard to explain. I've mentioned it before but it's kind of a whole thing so I'll go into detail this time I guess. So this is our livingroom PC, and it is the house multi-purpose machine. So like, we have a ton of highly optimized and very purpose driven computers. For example, we have a 64 core 5995WX that Sonicadvance uses for work that is code creation and code compilation optimized as much as possible, it is a focused and gloriously precise thing that gets shit done. We have a NAS which handles all our data storage and backup needs, and it is intensively focused on that goal with surprisingly weak hardware actually (8 core Zen 2 EPYC) that drives a frick ton of storage with a bunch of different caches and pools. We also have dozens of little CI machines each doing their own little build and testing tasks for FEX-EMU, a few big CI machines (of which the 5975WX will soon join) for bigger tests and bigger builds, etc etc. Then we have like the Shield Android TV which is exclusively for media, or the game consoles which are exclusively for games on those platforms, etc etc. You get the idea - tons of computers that do one job. But for multipurpose do anything systems, we actually don't have much. We have our M1 Max MacBooks, which are fine in a pinch. Like, they can kind of do everything, but they aren't THAT powerful and have a lot of limitations due to being ARM and running MacOS. There's a lot they cannot run and do, like PC games, for instance. Frick, even when doing code compilation stuff we're using VMs and things to expand their capabilities! There are a lot of gaps in our army of computers, and the livingroom PC is the one that fills them. It has an optical drive for ripping media. It has the connectivity to the tellie to be a home theatre PC and cover anything the Shield can't do. It has gaming horse power with raytracing and VR and HDR and high framerates and all the things. It has capture for getting hardware references for Dolphin (via an OSSC) or just capturing from anything HDMI. It has a BILLION devices plugged into it at any given time, like, there are over a dozen type-c ports on the thing and about two dozen type-a ports. And also, I don't want to be borrowing Sonicadvance1's workstation PC all the time if I'm busy working on something, he has actual important work to do that actually makes money, so I need a workstation too. I do a lot of Dolphin things, like working on the blog or capturing/editing footage or writing and compiling the GUI I'm working on or rendering some dumb scene for a header or whatever. And I'm a 3D modeler / animator, and also graphics artist, so I need the a huge screen realestate with a ton of colour accurate displays for this workstation and the CPU and memory to handle those workloads. The livingroom PC is a lot of things. But basically, it's the PC that fills in the gaps, whether that is filling the niches that our purpose built machines can't cover, or serving as a fallback/secondary version of those purpose built PCs for whatever need may arise. So it needs to handle all the things our other systems can't do, but also potentially handle the things those other systems do and still be at least good at those things. To do all that, it needs to have a frick ton of connectivity, and it needs to be good at everything - not necessarily the best of the best but solid and performant in any task. Turns out I just described a type of computer that is disappearing rapidly and is really hard to build. Yay! There are a few other considerations too in its design, like, it's in the living room so it needs to be reasonably quiet, so we went with watercooling with a ton of rads. Plus, you literally can't fit all of these cards into a computer without watercooling so it was kind of required. It also needs to be able to just HOLD all of the things, so it's a big case. Etc etc. Extremedude2 Wrote:I swapped out my 9800 GT for a 9800 GTX+ on my retro PC. I had one of those! Ahh warm fuzzy nostalgia feelings. I had an EVGA one specifically. KHg8m3r Wrote:My guess: Spoiler: Intel Xeon w7-3465X OC | Asus Pro WS W790-E Sage SE | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 FE | 8x16GiB G-Skill Zeta R5 DDR5-6000 | Windows 11 23H2 | (details)
MacBook Pro 14in | M1 Max (32 GPU Cores) | 64GB LPDDR5 6400 | macOS 13
07-24-2023, 10:31 PM
Oh ho, I had two 275s from BFG. Does your BFG 9800GTX+ have notable coil whine? Because my BFG 275s outright SANG under load!
Spoiler: Intel Xeon w7-3465X OC | Asus Pro WS W790-E Sage SE | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 FE | 8x16GiB G-Skill Zeta R5 DDR5-6000 | Windows 11 23H2 | (details)
MacBook Pro 14in | M1 Max (32 GPU Cores) | 64GB LPDDR5 6400 | macOS 13
07-25-2023, 02:40 AM
Quote:7950XTX perhaps? Not going to happen - leaks indicate that the 7900XTX was designed such that they'd be able to put two of the main chiplet on a card and beat the RTX 4090 leaving Nvidia unable to respond as they're too close to the reticle limit to make a bigger single-die GPU this generation. The fact that they didn't take this opportunity as soon as possible suggests they have no interest in doing it now there're fewer potential 4090 customers to sell to.
OS: Windows 10 64 bit Professional
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5900X RAM: 48GB GPU: Radeon 7800 XT (07-25-2023, 02:40 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: ... leaks indicate that the 7900XTX was designed such that they'd be able to put two of the main chiplet on a card ... Well I was thinking of just a regular 7900XTX but with twice the memory to compete with the VRAM niche of the 4090. But whatever. EDIT: Oh I forgot that the 7900XTX already goes up to 24GB. Nevermind then. As for the chiplet thing, that sounds awesome, but I think your source is wrong. Looking at the die, it doesn't seem like it is capable of that. I'm only seeing interconnects for the cache dies. Like, with M1 Max, everyone familiar with silicon knew that the Ultra was coming because it had a huge interconnect (relative to the size of the chip) on the die that was not utilized. Zen chiplets also have really big interconnects for connecting to the infinity fabric, so the infinity fabric works in a similar manner. So, if there was a plan to merge two 7900XTX dies via the infinity fabric, I'd expect a giant unused interconnect on the 7900XTX, but all that is there are the smaller cache die interconnects (which are all being used) and the usual PCIe lanes and what not. There is no big unused interconnect to be found. EDIT: Also the 4090 isn't up against the reticule limit. It has a die size of 608mm2. Meanwhile the H100, which actually goes up against the reticule limit, has a die size of 812mm2. Intel Xeon w7-3465X OC | Asus Pro WS W790-E Sage SE | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 FE | 8x16GiB G-Skill Zeta R5 DDR5-6000 | Windows 11 23H2 | (details)
MacBook Pro 14in | M1 Max (32 GPU Cores) | 64GB LPDDR5 6400 | macOS 13
07-25-2023, 07:20 AM
(07-24-2023, 11:24 PM)MayImilae Wrote: Oh ho, I had two 275s from BFG. Does your BFG 9800GTX+ have notable coil whine? Because my BFG 275s outright SANG under load! Haven't noticed any yet, not put any stress on it. I'd love to mess around with SLI one day, I just remembered that I have a z170 board that supports it, so I'll have to look into it sometime.
This doesn't really need to be in spoiler tags so, the Aquacomputer (specifically the Aquacomputer Aquaero 6 LT) is basically a small computer to run a big computer's cooling system. It's complicated, but the jist is that it has inputs (either from thermal probes, flow sensors, power sensors, the optional service, PWM inputs, buttons, an IR receiver? etc etc) and it has outputs (fans, pumps, RGB, random LEDs you can plug in, the built in speaker, displays, relays, etc etc) and you configure what the inputs do to the outputs and then the Aquaero just... runs it for you. It has software for configuration but it doesn't run in the background. The only thing that runs in the background is the aquaero service, which is optional. There are some things it needs the service for (collecting data from your CPU and GPU's built in sensors, doing something when an app is detected, the virtual sensor thing for extremely fancy math on inputs) but the service is very benign (not a mild power-virus spyware with tons of security vulnerabilities) and you can just turn it off and most things will still work. Currently, I'm not even using the service.
As I have it configured right now, the Aquaero is detecting the water temperature in the loop with its own in-line thermal probes and uses what it senses from them to control the fans and pump accordingly, and the computer isn't even aware of it. It's NICE! It took some time for me to get to know the loop and configure it correctly, but it was time well spent. It's whisper quiet at idle, and roars only when it needs to. It's great! Plus, the case lighting (there is no RGB in the system components, SO NICE) is also entirely controlled by the Aquacomputer. I could set it to all kinds of effects on a per-LED basis and the aquacomputer will just run them even without any software, but I just wanted tasteful case lighting so that's how I configured it. It's fantastic. I highly recommend the Aquacomputer for high end builds! What I've set up is only the tip of the iceberg - the ability to have any inputs set to any outputs in any combination allows for insane customization. It's great! Spoiler: Intel Xeon w7-3465X OC | Asus Pro WS W790-E Sage SE | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 FE | 8x16GiB G-Skill Zeta R5 DDR5-6000 | Windows 11 23H2 | (details)
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