I'm pretty sure if I had a significant other, and he/she was a jerk to the world at large, I'd find that plenty embarrassing, even if he/she treated me great. I'm sure women aren't into two-faced men either.
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05-24-2014, 12:22 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2014, 01:35 AM by Xtreme2damax.)
(05-23-2014, 02:54 PM)RachelB Wrote:(05-23-2014, 01:06 AM)Xtreme2damax Wrote:It's because your sexist that you're unable to see how sexist it is.(05-22-2014, 11:58 PM)Shonumi Wrote: NA women tend to be superficial? Ouch, what a broad and sexist brush you paint with. Not only is that not true (and if it is, it's sampling error) but North America covers more places than the USA (Canada, Mexico...) You do need to get out more. I'm not sexist and several people would argue that on my behalf, none of you know me personally so you've no right claiming what I am or am not.. This was all just a gross overreaction over a harmless sarcastic remark, a silly misunderstanding I've been trying to correct but have failed to so far and only managed to make worse on myself. Btw if you want to meet someone that is really sexist or misogynistic I can arrange that so you can see what I said is not sexist or stereotypical in the slightest. They don't even need to be someone that is sexist or misogynistic, just someone that can counter the arguments above with legitimate examples using a large sample size from society itself. It's not just my experience I base what I said upon.. I have real life friends and there are examples all over the internet that proves this type of behavior is far more prevalent than what everyone here wants to believe. As I said before not every woman or man is like that but all the bad apples tend to outweigh the good. I also suggest you look up the correct definition of sexism. There is no discrimination or prejudice on my behalf, not even mediocre stereotypes and everything I stated thus far was either according to experience, talking with friends, examples online or in society. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism Btw I know better than anyone and was raised with morals one of which is the popular quote "Don't judge a book by it's cover" so I'm the last person that would ever intentionally or seriously be sexist, racist etc.. so get deal with and get over it because there was no good reason to take offence and get upset over my remark. You are literally preaching to the choir here. @RachelB: I'm sorry to say this and don't mean to sound harsh but you and others are full of horse hockey on some points. Some of you are overreacting and making a big deal over nothing significant, my twenty years of experience and dealing with this would suggest otherwise. Maybe.. just maybe because I've been wronged by society so much and faced rejection at every turn I feel the way I do, has anyone here ever thought about that? Just because someone (like some of you here) haven't experienced this doesn't make it any less or more true than it is. There's nothing wrong with my personality and you are just basing upon and judging me from what I typed. Everything over the internet can be misunderstood and misconstrued to be a bigger deal than it actually is due either due to bias, missed sarcasm etc.. someone will always take offence to something no matter how petty. I lost two friends just because I cordially posted constructive criticism, voiced some concerns towards a local program and sought reassurance for something else. None of that was directed towards these friends or personally affected them in any way other than their overreaction over something so trivial. One of the two friends, a former employee of the aforementioned program I criticised took offense not only because I criticised the program she formerly worked at and was loyal. She likely also took offense because I expressed concern about an employee in the program who she happened to be friends with. Even though it's a different subject the story here is not much different as to why you are taking offence and being so defensive.. once again it's over something trivial fueled by bias due to being associated with the same group being discussed or criticised. What I said was really tame and not sexist at all and if you truly believe what I said was sexist you really need to look around more on the internet and in the real world. I'm actually very anti-sexist and anti-racist and loathe anyone that is racist or sexist in this day and age, a world where everyone should be treated as equals. I cringe and get depressed every time I hear how women are treated in some countries and what happens to them. Yes.. I know woman value personality higher but I'm not the monster you are all making me out to be here and am actually a decent guy. Regarding physical attractiveness and men having higher standards than woman.. not according to my experiences and while physically unattractive men can hook up with decent looking women on some occasions it takes an extreme amount of effort. Women I've known and seen in the same situation or worse off can hook up with guys even attractive guys without too much effort. In fact the guys are interested in them and go to them while in my no women show any signs of being interested in me or tries to flirt with me. I've already tried lowering my standards and know several woman who I shouldn't have any trouble asking out for a date successfully. None of them have ever show any interest in me other than me being a friend and never tried flirting with me, when I decide to ask them out it results in rejection every time so far. Quote:And FYI, nobody assumed it was sarcasm/irony because it wasn't funny in any way and just really pathetic. Sarcasm can be funny but isn't meant to be and is more or less mocking something or someone. Also FYI I don't care about getting laid and am not in any rush to pursue a relationship. I honestly have no desires whatsoever for a relationship or sex and haven't for a while now. I suppose it serves me right posting this here. I don't know what possessed me to post this elsewhere other than the recycle bin at Ngemu as none of you here would understand what I was referring to and going on about. I really expected better from the lot of you with me being a reputable veteran member here but that's where I was wrong I suppose. Quote:Well a bit more correct would be that they don't like guys who are being assholes towards them, now if a guy is an asshole towards the rest of society but them, it wouldn't be that much of a problem. I'm on the fence about that. There have been quite a few cases where I've seen men being verbally abusive to their partner and in lesser cases assaulted them. The woman then complain to others about how badly they are treated and may "break up" with their man only to run back into his arms, insisting that he changed and will treat her better. Quote:I get that people want to defend/explain themselves, but you really made the hole deeper each time you did. I only say this because nearly all of the messes I've seen online would more or less evaporate if people at the source of controversy had quit (and I mean leave the discussion entirely). If you say anything after a brief "take it or leave it" explanation or defense, the trouble just keeps piling up. Responding to others even after you've laid out your defense just continues the discussion. Good point but there was no reason for this to go as far as it did. If it weren't for this being blown out of proportion, labeling me sexist and telling me how wrong I am none of this would exist. Just shrug it off for what it was and get over it, no need to get so bothered over trivial bs that affects no one else (especially not here) personally. You are right, I should've done that and let it go but I keep going out of habit and as everyone knows old habits die hard. Quote:I'm not sexist and several people would argue that on my behalf, none of you know me personally so you've no right claiming what I am or am not.. This was all just a gross misunderstanding and overreaction over a harmless sarcastic remark.. If you want to meet someone that is really sexist or misogynistic I can arrange that, I'm sure they would have a field day. They don't even need to be someone that is sexist or misogynistic, just someone that can counter the arguments above with legitimate examples using a large sample size from society itself. It's not just my experience.. I have real life friends and there are examples all over the internet that proves this type of behavior is far more prevalent than what everyone here believes. As I said not every woman or man is like that but all the bad apples tend to outweigh the good.If you believe even half of the stuff you've posted, then you're sexist. I don't care your friends don't think you are. You are. Quote:@RachelB: I'm sorry to say this and don't mean to sound harsh but you and others are full of horse hockey on some points. You are overreacting and making a big deal over nothing significant. My twenty years of experience and dealing with this would suggest otherwise so maybe.. just maybe because I've been wronged by society so much and faced rejection at every turn I feel the way I do; has anyone here ever thought about that?You haven't been wronged by society. You aren't entitled to sex or a relationship. If no one likes you, then that's your fault. Society isn't conspiring against you. If you want these things, then you need to improve the way you interact with others. Society doesn't you owe anything. Quote:There's nothing wrong with my personality and you are just basing upon and judging me from what I typed.Yes, i am. Words are what people use to express their thoughts. The way you express your thoughts is what makes up your personality. How else would i judge it? Quote:Even though it's a different subject the story here is not much different as to why you are taking offence and being so defensive. Once again it's over something trivial fueled by bias due to you being in the same group i.e. a woman.Please. I'm not the only one who took offense to it. When you say something and a bunch of people get offended by it, it's usually because you're saying offensive things. Quote:but I'm not the monster you are all making me out to be here and am actually a decent guyWell, i doubt that. 05-24-2014, 02:24 AM
X2D: Stop talking. Go to the pub, have a pint, and wait for this all to blow over. I'm pretty sure most of what you've said hasn't meant to come across as it has, but it has, and still is doing, so you really need to stop talking. Poor phrasing costs lives.
Everyone else: you may not have experienced this, but a lot of people (and the media), when trying to explain why the person they're talking to is always single, make dumb and generalised statements to try and 'help'. I get the feeling X2D may have experienced a lot of this, and when you start hearing the same thing over and over, it becomes easier to think it may actually apply in a lot of cases. I'm pretty sure that his first post was an attempt at mocking these people, and it fell on the wrong audience. He then did the worst possible job of explaining himself in the history of the random thread, and made himself look like a twat. AT the minute, all we're doing is baiting him into panic-writing more things, which is only going to make him say more things you disagree with. Just remember, the guy's stuck in an area with no proper internet. He could be the least misogynistic person he knows and still not live up to your standards of a normal person.
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(05-24-2014, 12:12 AM)Shonumi Wrote: I'm pretty sure if I had a significant other, and he/she was a jerk to the world at large, I'd find that plenty embarrassing, even if he/she treated me great. I'm sure women aren't into two-faced men either. They will be blind to it or even try to ignore it usually/ don't believe it, as long as themselves are treated well. I have way too many examples of that happening. 05-24-2014, 02:39 AM
(05-24-2014, 02:26 AM)Link_to_the_past Wrote:(05-24-2014, 12:12 AM)Shonumi Wrote: I'm pretty sure if I had a significant other, and he/she was a jerk to the world at large, I'd find that plenty embarrassing, even if he/she treated me great. I'm sure women aren't into two-faced men either. I probably have many more examples of people leaving those types of men (hooray anecdotal evidence). You're suggesting that women are okay with duplicitous men, which is not the case universally. Some people (men and women) are okay with that in their partners, but you can't say all men or women accept such behavior. Generally speaking, being an asshole (to others or a loved one) is not an attractive quality regardless of sex or gender. If two assholes get together though, they may well complement each other's toxic personality. 05-24-2014, 02:49 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2014, 02:54 AM by Link_to_the_past.)
(05-24-2014, 02:39 AM)Shonumi Wrote:(05-24-2014, 02:26 AM)Link_to_the_past Wrote:(05-24-2014, 12:12 AM)Shonumi Wrote: I'm pretty sure if I had a significant other, and he/she was a jerk to the world at large, I'd find that plenty embarrassing, even if he/she treated me great. I'm sure women aren't into two-faced men either. Out of curiosity did they leave them in a heartbeat or after a long time? Did they need to face a reality check before doing that in a sense? And don't get me wrong, i am not saying that they like such a behavior, i am just saying they can more easily ignore it if they think that a man can cover their other needs. 05-24-2014, 03:44 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2014, 03:49 AM by ExtremeDude2.)
Xtreme2damax has told me to let everyone know that he won't be coming back here for awhile
Xtreme2damax, I just flew over this wall of text but I can tell you that you are not the only one. I guess it's even worse for me. I mean, I can't even talk to girls. I simply can't because I'm so afraid of talking with a nice girl, can't even look in their eyes. Additionally... I'm different (I hate clubbing and all this "fun" stuff and I'm not an asshole and aggressive flirter...) and what's even worse is that I lack "social intelligence". Yep... I'll be forever alone and already gave up.
That's it. And no girl needs a broken guy like me, only chance I have is to buy some love with money. Nuff said. 05-24-2014, 04:35 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2014, 04:37 AM by kinkinkijkin.)
(05-24-2014, 03:44 AM)ExtremeDude2 Wrote: Xtreme2damax has told me to let everyone know that he won't be coming back here for awhile Well, then. Unrelated to all of this crap, would anyone be able to recommend me a distribution of Linux? I need a fast-running system, preferably screen tear-proof, that isn't too difficult to install all of the needed packages onto for stuff like compiling dolphin, and it needs to not make my eyes burn to look at. I've tried Ubuntu, and I'm not particularly fond of it, even though it's only one of two that I've tried. The other that I tried was the LXDE version of PCLinuxOS. I didn't like it. EDIT: It would help if it had drivers built in that were compatible with my current adapter, the WUA-2340, but most stock drivers are compatible with it nowadays.
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