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[s@@ker]

Hello there.

I need some tips (at least I hope there are).

I made some tests with my 2 computers:
1st is
*Intel Core2Quad Q9450 processor
* Gigabyte X48T DQ6 motherboard(Windows 7 x64 and WinXp x86 on 2 partitions)
*4GB Ram DDR3
*GPU Nvidia Geforce 240 GT 1Gb DDR3
*HD 500Gb
*Cooler Master UCP Ultimate 1100W power supply.

RESULTS: all games emulated at 15/30 fps (Mario kart wii, mario bros wii, Mario galaxy Wii Wave race blue storm GC, Zelda Twilight P GC, Bloody roar GC, RE Remake GC and Soul calibur 2 GC)
Got it? almost 20 shitty fps.(BOTH ON WIN7x64 and WINXpx86)

2nd Computer:
*AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+, MMX, 3D Now
*Asus M2V-TVM motherboard (WinXp x86)
*GPU Nvidia Geforce 7950 GT 512Mb DDR3
*1Gb Ram DDR2
*HD 160 Gb
*550W power supply.

RESULTS:
-Mario Bros Wii = 50/55 fps (still playing lol)
-Mario Kart Wii = Grand Prix Mode: 35 fps/ Solo Time Trial: 45/50 fps
-Super Mario Galaxy Wii = 20/30 fps
-Zelda Twilight Princess GC = 40/50 fps
-Wave Race Blue Storm GC = 45/55 fps

Well...WTF?! Any Explanations?

I have tried all possible settings and thousands of revs, the only option that brings an FPS change is EFB to TEXTURE/RAM, the others are like nothing.(relying on my pcs)

Don't suggest "enable dual core" , "disable fog" or say "mine runs at full speed",thanks.

[Runo]

It's because of your CPU, Dual cores are much more efficient with Dolphin than quad cores. Nothing you can do about it. What matters for Dolphin is your CPU clock, like, think a 3.0 dual core would run fullspeed, that doesnt mean a 2.0 quad core would run ok, even tough the cores all together are more clock, because of the way Dolphin works, for a quad core to run fullspeed in this case it would have to be 3.0 like the dual core one.

[NaturalViolence]

@Runo

His quad core cpu is clocked higher (2.66GHz instead of 2.0GHz). And since it's a core 2 architecture instead of K9 performance per clock should be A LOT higher with dolphin. It should be running dolphin about twice as fast as the athlon X2.

@s@@ker

Something is very wrong. Either overheating or a background application eating up cpu throughput are my top two guesses since you stated you already tried playing around with settings. Either that or you set the framelimit to 30 but left "use fps for limiting" off. Try setting the framelimit to 60, turn off fps for limiting, and turn off audio throttle so I can eliminate framecapping as a potential suspect.

[tuanming]

(01-12-2011, 11:47 AM)Runo Wrote: It's because of your CPU, Dual cores are much more efficient with Dolphin than quad cores. Nothing you can do about it. What matters for Dolphin is your CPU clock, like, think a 3.0 dual core would run fullspeed, that doesnt mean a 2.0 quad core would run ok, even tough the cores all together are more clock, because of the way Dolphin works, for a quad core to run fullspeed in this case it would have to be 3.0 like the dual core one.

And a 3Ghz dual core vs 3Ghz quad core will either be equal or the quad is a tad faster. Even quad core can be overclocked too, in case you didn't know.

[meforero]

Test follow in your quadcore cpu

Run dolphin, without launch games.
Go to taskmanager.
In aplications search dolphin
Right click, go to process
Right click, Afinity ... check ONLY CPU 0 and CPU 1 uncheck All processors, CPU 2 and CPU 3
Launch you favorite game.
Test.
If the result is not optimus... then format your Quadcore cpu and install clean win7 64 bits.

[Runo]

@NaturalViolence
I was just giving an example, and it was almost midnight I was too lazy too search his CPU clock, sorry
thx for tha info anyway

(01-12-2011, 01:17 PM)tuanming Wrote: And a 3Ghz dual core vs 3Ghz quad core will either be equal or the quad is a tad faster. Even quad core can be overclocked too, in case you didn't know.

yup

[s@@ker]

(01-12-2011, 01:23 PM)meforero Wrote: Test follow in your quadcore cpu

Run dolphin, without launch games.
Go to taskmanager.
In aplications search dolphin
Right click, go to process
Right click, Afinity ... check ONLY CPU 0 and CPU 1 uncheck All processors, CPU 2 and CPU 3
Launch you favorite game.
Test.
If the result is not optimus... then format your Quadcore cpu and install clean win7 64 bits.

Here you go man:



Sounds like crazy.

To clarify some doubts about my cpu clock: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=33923

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128330

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=5218
(Sorry for main post mistake but it doesn't change anything trust me)

@Naturalviolence

Quote:Something is very wrong. Either overheating or a background application eating up cpu throughput are my top two guesses since you stated you already tried playing around with settings. Either that or you set the framelimit to 30 but left "use fps for limiting" off. Try setting the framelimit to 60, turn off fps for limiting, and turn off audio throttle so I can eliminate framecapping as a potential suspect.

Probably there is some cpu issue, but setting 30 fps limit...rotfl man.
The combo "auto fps limit + audio throttle unchecked" or viceversa is kinda fail here

I hope you guys can help me find some stuff out, thank you.

[tuanming]

The problem is your gpu, not the CPU. Although, some overclocking can help increase fps. It would help if you post your dolphin setting too. Also, try 640x480 resolution and see if you get more fps out of it.

[NaturalViolence]

@s@@ker

I noticed your cpu load was 72% in that screenshot. It should not be that high from dolphin alone. Are you sure you don't have any heavy background applications eating up cpu throughput?

Quote:Probably there is some cpu issue, but setting 30 fps limit...rotfl man.
The combo "auto fps limit + audio throttle unchecked" or viceversa is kinda fail here

?

Quote:The problem is your gpu, not the CPU. Although, some overclocking can help increase fps. It would help if you post your dolphin setting too. Also, try 640x480 resolution and see if you get more fps out of it.

I remember the GT 240 had some problems with dolphin but I thought I remembered those being error messages, not slowdowns. In video game performance a GT 240 is equal to a 9600gt, which is enough to run dolphin at 1080p with integral or fractional scaling as long as pixel lighting and AA are off. But perhaps it was some kind of bizarre slowdown that was reported, guess I'll have to wait for his response to know for sure.

[s@@ker]

(01-13-2011, 05:59 AM)tuanming Wrote: The problem is your gpu, not the CPU. Although, some overclocking can help increase fps. It would help if you post your dolphin setting too. Also, try 640x480 resolution and see if you get more fps out of it.

7950GT vs GT240?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_200_Series
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_7_.287xxx.29_series

My dolphin settings are this http://www.dolphin-emu.org/performance.html but i have also tried all possible others.

Quote:Either that or you set the framelimit to 30 but left "use fps for limiting" off. Try setting the framelimit to 60, turn off fps for limiting, and turn off audio throttle so I can eliminate framecapping as a potential suspect.

I meant that there is no reason in setting 30 fps limit
(audio throttle is only helpful in slowing too high fps in this case)

Quote:Also, try 640x480 resolution and see if you get more fps out of it.

-With Athlon X2 64 and 7950 GT 512MB Mario Bros runs in 1080p at 50 fps.
(Anisotropic 16x and all enhancement options checked)

-With Intel Q9450 and GT 240 1GB Mario Bros runs in 640x480 at 30 fps.
(Anisotropic 1x and all enhancements off)
Also all settings mesh were tried.

Quote:I noticed your cpu load was 72% in that screenshot. It should not be that high from dolphin alone. Are you sure you don't have any heavy background applications eating up cpu throughput?

Avast Antivirus and Advanced System Care were running in background, but they use (without Dolphin running) about 10-20% of my cpu.