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+--- Thread: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k (/Thread-amd-4200g-vs-intel-i3-7350k)
RE: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k - TKSilver - 02-13-2018
You do, but also kep in mind that it's base frequency is 4.2GHz (it does not turbo). So you might not need to overclock and you might not get much overclocking out of it. Also the more heat and power you are using on the CPU side the less performance you can get from the iGPU with out running into power\thermal throttling if your cooling and your board's power delivery is not up to it.
RE: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k - Karmeck - 02-13-2018
(02-13-2018, 02:55 AM)TKSilver Wrote: You do, but also kep in mind that it's base frequency is 4.2GHz (it does not turbo). So you might not need to overclock and you might not get much overclocking out of it. Also the more heat and power you are using on the CPU side the less performance you can get from the iGPU with out running into power\thermal throttling if your cooling and your board's power delivery is not up to it.
From my understanding the noctua should be up to the task. But most if not all peopel that write about the Noctuas performance don't use the iGPU.
However the cpu will be the only thing generating any major heat and i plan on using several 120mm fans for quiet cooling in the chassi.
RE: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k - Nintendo Maniac 64 - 02-13-2018
As it's only a 2c/4t CPU, you really don't need much in the way of cooling if you aren't going to use a z-series motherboard.
RE: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k - Karmeck - 02-13-2018
(02-13-2018, 06:03 AM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: As it's only a 2c/4t CPU, you really don't need much in the way of cooling if you aren't going to use a z-series motherboard.
Oh, but I am:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YvM2Ft
Once again, this is a shopping list. Will try to get some parts as used.
RE: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k - Nintendo Maniac 64 - 02-13-2018
Regarding the Ryzen 2200G and 2400G, it looks like at least in Dolphin 5.0 that its performance unfortunately isn't really any different than the Ryzen 1400 (the 2400G performed somewhat worse than the 2200G indicating that SMT may be causing issues, but again this is in Dolphin 5.0 rather than new dev builds):
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12425/marrying-vega-and-zen-the-amd-ryzen-5-2400g-review/7 Wrote:
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RE: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k - sirdaniel - 02-13-2018
Yea, 4.2 ghz clock is a killer. Still no double RAM sticks in your part list.
by the way look at cinebench scores https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2400G_Vega_11/9.html
Ryzen is a king in multithreaded use and still behind in single core performance. Not a bad chip on-the-whole, just still not yet enough for emulation
RE: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k - JonnyH - 02-13-2018
Remember, the 5.0 test is worst cast for ryzen - newer dev builds improved the performance on ryzen specifically (apparently from a compiler update?)
And once again, once you get to the point that the cpu can keep up with the emulated wii - CPU performance doesn't matter. Though that point does change based on game and features that it's required to emulate, but there's no point going much beyond that point and other things (like a *much* faster integrated graphics system) may give a better experience.
RE: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k - Nintendo Maniac 64 - 02-13-2018
(02-13-2018, 08:22 AM)JonnyH Wrote: Remember, the 5.0 test is worst cast for ryzen - newer dev builds improved the performance on ryzen specifically (apparently from a compiler update?)
That's why I specifically mentioned it being Dolphin 5.0, but even then the newer dev builds do not provide enough performance uplift for 1000-series Ryzen CPUs to surpass Haswell.
RE: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k - JonnyH - 02-13-2018
(02-13-2018, 08:26 AM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: That's why I specifically mentioned it being Dolphin 5.0, but even then the newer dev builds do not provide enough performance uplift for 1000-series Ryzen CPUs to surpass Haswell.
No, but if that extra performance isn't needed it doesn't matter. Once it reaches 100% wii speed, extra cpu performance overhead gives you *nothing*.
Not many games need more than "only" haswell.
RE: Amd 4200G vs intel i3 7350k - Karmeck - 02-13-2018
(02-13-2018, 08:17 AM)sirdaniel Wrote: Yea, 4.2 ghz clock is a killer. Still no double RAM sticks in your part list.
by the way look at cinebench scores https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2400G_Vega_11/9.html
Ryzen is a king in multithreaded use and still behind in single core performance. Not a bad chip on-the-whole, just still not yet enough for emulation
Right you are:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j8W6MZ
It is my understanding 8GB is enough.