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RE: Another is my system powerful enough? - Anti-Ultimate - 06-16-2014
Doesn't the Pentium also overclock in Z87 Mobos with a BIOS update?
RE: Another is my system powerful enough? - admin89 - 06-16-2014
Z97 price is the same as Z87 . It's pointless to choose Z87 mobo
Not to mention Z97 can OC CPU far better than Z87
RE: Another is my system powerful enough? - Anti-Ultimate - 06-16-2014
There's literally no difference in overclocking from Z97 to Z87, the only thing that makes Z97 better are M2 slots.
RE: Another is my system powerful enough? - AnyOldName3 - 06-16-2014
And the fact that you don't have to buy a non-refresh Haswell to do the BIOS update in the first place.
RE: Another is my system powerful enough? - admin89 - 06-16-2014
I read somewhere on the internet that i5 4670k can oc better on a Z97 mobo .
Devid Canyon can oc that much also thanks to Z97 mobo and new TIM
RE: Another is my system powerful enough? - Anti-Ultimate - 06-16-2014
Obviously you want to go for the newest chipset all the time. I didn't want to recommend him a Z87 mobo.
RE: Another is my system powerful enough? - turingpest - 06-16-2014
(06-16-2014, 12:45 AM)admin89 Wrote: I read somewhere on the internet that i5 4670k can oc better on a Z97 mobo .
Devid Canyon can oc that much also thanks to Z97 mobo and new TIM
I read somewhere on the internet that pigs can fly.
RE: Another is my system powerful enough? - admin89 - 06-16-2014
@ turingpest
You're not helping . I don't have time to dig that topic to prove to you
RE: Another is my system powerful enough? - tecfreak - 06-16-2014
(06-15-2014, 11:33 PM)DragonFireXY Wrote: What about the Pentium anniversary?
The G3258 @4.6GHz will probably be as fast as a i3 4130, gets hotter and has a higher power consumption @oc.
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/intel-pentium-g3258-review-and-overclocking-benchmarks-idnum298/
@Dinujan
You better go with the 4130.
RE: Another is my system powerful enough? - Dinujan - 06-16-2014
(06-12-2014, 09:03 PM)admin89 Wrote: You better wait for Unlocked Pentium Anniversary Edition G3258 which will be released soon (About 2 weeks)Thanks, I haven't looked into Devil's Canyon yet.
Available for Pre-order atm :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117374&cm_re=G3258-_-19-117-374-_-Product
It's based on Haswell architecture . Basically a lower clock / weaker integrated GPU - i3 without Hyperthreading (i3 with HT : 2 cores 4 threads , Pentium no HT : 2 cores 2 threads) . Since Dolphin is a dual core app , HT is useless
You must pair Unlocked Penitum with Z97 mobo and an aftermarket cooler like Noctua NH-L9i (low profile , extremely quiet and cheap) in order to overclock
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/noctua_nhl9i/4.htm
Unlocked Pentium can hit 4.6GHz which is extremely fast for most games , even demanding games are no problem
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/intel-pentium-g3258-review-and-overclocking-benchmarks-idnum298/
As for the GPU , EVGA GTX 750 will do 4xIR (2560x2112) on most games , 3xIR on demanding games . GTX 750 power consumption is only 55W (full load) , it's very efficient
Edit : You can remove aftermarket cooler option , stock heatsink is fine for 4.6GHz OC though stock heatsink = noisy
(06-16-2014, 12:36 AM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote: There's literally no difference in overclocking from Z97 to Z87, the only thing that makes Z97 better are M2 slots.That's why I'm getting the 9 series. I"m going to be installing a Cruical M550 M.2 SSD. I'm just not 100% sure it will work (Physically it should fit). There seems to be alot of different nomenclature for this slot, so I'm a little confused. The SSD is Sata and has both 'M' and 'B' notches, and the motherboard is a type 3 M.2, based on PCIe x2. But I've got no idea on whether it will fit or not
(06-16-2014, 04:23 AM)tecfreak Wrote:(06-15-2014, 11:33 PM)DragonFireXY Wrote: What about the Pentium anniversary?
The G3258 @4.6GHz will probably be as fast as a i3 4130, gets hotter and has a higher power consumption @oc.
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/intel-pentium-g3258-review-and-overclocking-benchmarks-idnum298/
@Dinujan
You better go with the 4130.
Okay, so 4150 or G3258. If I choose the G3258, I'll save 40$ on the CPU, but spend 50$ on a Z97 motherboard, and also have to settle for whatever AC Wifi module they choose instead of the Intel one I chose.
I'm planning to get either the Zalman 8900 Silent or the Noctua NH-l4i. The Zalman is 12mm taller a better cooler (quieter plus lower temps), however, I like the look of the Noctua.
Power Supply: I am planning on using a 160W Power Supply. If I go i3, I'm looking at 71+50W vs (60-100) + 50W on the G3258.
So either system is okay.
I might have failed to mention this, but I"m making an ITX HTPC, so there will be very poor airflow, and no extra fans. I can make some notches in the case, for cooling, but its going to be mainly directed at the 750 ti.
In the video, the Pentium was massacred by the i3 in compression tests, and barely kept up with the i3 in most tests. But I'm guessing for emulation, the Pentium would turn the tables? Since we're comparing ~4.6GHz to 3.5GHz
I've also changed the OS to Windows 8, I completely forgot that Ubuntu doesn't have support for Wireless AC.
Here are the two motherboards I'm considering
Z97 = http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157504
H97 = http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD7218 + WiFi (http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200NW1072)
Here's a picture of the Power Supply, in-case anyone was wondering
![[Image: picoPSU-160-XT-big2.jpg]](http://resources.mini-box.com/online/PWR-PICOPSU-160-XT/moreimages/picoPSU-160-XT-big2.jpg)
I just need to supply it with 12V/14A DC, and it will run fine.