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My Computer Specs and questions - finalfantasy6464 - 12-07-2013 Hi There <3 I am new to the forums so excuse me if this is in the wrong place but i needed to ask a question: I am doing a Zeldathon on Monday (Wind Waker / Twilight Princess) and i can't understand why my FPS isn't stable at 30 SPECS: Processor: Intel® Core i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHZ (8 CPU's) Memory: 8192 MB DDR 3 G-Skill GFX: Nvidia GTX 550ti Resolution: 1920 x 1080 Now for the dolphin settings: Version: 4.0.2 General Dual Core enabled Idle skipping enabled Cheats off Framelimit Auto CPU Emulator JIT Recompiler (Recommended) Audio DSP LLE Recompiler DSPLLE On Seperate Thread Audio Backend: XAudio2 Latency: 2 Graphics Backend: Direct3D9 FS Resolution: 1920 x 1080 Aspect Ratio: Auto V-Sync: Off Enhancements 1 x Native (640 x 528) AA: None Anisotropic Filtering: 1x Scaled EFB Copy: On Per-Pixel Lighting: Off All other settings disabled on this page Hacks Skip EFB Access from CPU - Disabled Ignore Format changes - Enabled EFB Copies - Texture Texture Cache Accuracy: Fast External Frame Buffer - Disabled Other: All off except for Fast Depth Calculation Advanced All disabled Once again sorry if my computer just isn't powerful enough and I'm being silly etc. and also if this is in the wrong thread then i also apologise (although i think it's in the right place?) Any help would be greatly appreciated :3 RE: My Computer Specs and questions - Shonumi - 12-07-2013 You should be getting fullspeed even at stock. I have the GPU but an i5-2500K, but both games run pretty much perfectly. Zelda TP + LLE audio + Hyrule Field later on in the game can be quite demanding; either use HLE audio or OC your CPU if possible. If you do use LLE audio, do not put it in a separate thread; it will freeze Dolphin sometimes if you do. Additionally, OpenGL is much faster than D3D9 now; use it an enable the Vertex Streaming Hack (Graphics -> Hacks). Fwiw, your specs are plenty powerful for these two games. But how is a real Zelda marathon without Four Swords Adventures? :p RE: My Computer Specs and questions - finalfantasy6464 - 12-07-2013 (12-07-2013, 05:14 AM)Shonumi Wrote: You should be getting fullspeed even at stock. I have the GPU but an i5-2500K, but both games run pretty much perfectly. Zelda TP + LLE audio + Hyrule Field later on in the game can be quite demanding; either use HLE audio or OC your CPU if possible. If you do use LLE audio, do not put it in a separate thread; it will freeze Dolphin sometimes if you do. Additionally, OpenGL is much faster than D3D9 now; use it an enable the Vertex Streaming Hack (Graphics -> Hacks).Thanks so much! Enabling that one thing makes it run perfectly! <3 I love you! :3 RE: My Computer Specs and questions - finalfantasy6464 - 12-07-2013 (12-07-2013, 05:58 AM)finalfantasy6464 Wrote:Okie, i probably should have made sure about Twilight Princess as well(12-07-2013, 05:14 AM)Shonumi Wrote: You should be getting fullspeed even at stock. I have the GPU but an i5-2500K, but both games run pretty much perfectly. Zelda TP + LLE audio + Hyrule Field later on in the game can be quite demanding; either use HLE audio or OC your CPU if possible. If you do use LLE audio, do not put it in a separate thread; it will freeze Dolphin sometimes if you do. Additionally, OpenGL is much faster than D3D9 now; use it an enable the Vertex Streaming Hack (Graphics -> Hacks).Thanks so much! Enabling that one thing makes it run perfectly! <3 I love you! :3 WW works 100% just fine but TP (being the more demanding game) still sticks at about 65% speed I'm sure there is some specific setting i'm missing but i can't see anything on the google when i checked it Now this might be the wrong place but hey, as always any help is deeply appreciated :3
RE: My Computer Specs and questions - Shonumi - 12-08-2013 You never said if you switched from LLE audio to HLE audio (try it). If you're CPU bound rather than GPU bound (our GPUs can easily handle this game at 3x IR), most slowdowns will go away with the right amount of overclocking. Btw, where are you getting the slowdowns? I'm actually still in the process of compiling data about how this game runs at various clocks (2.5GHz to 3.3GHz) on an i5-2500K on 4.0, so maybe the data will be useful to you. RE: My Computer Specs and questions - finalfantasy6464 - 12-08-2013 (12-08-2013, 10:09 AM)Shonumi Wrote: You never said if you switched from LLE audio to HLE audio (try it). If you're CPU bound rather than GPU bound (our GPUs can easily handle this game at 3x IR), most slowdowns will go away with the right amount of overclocking.Ah, Sorry! >.< Yes i did switch from LLE to HLE Audio. In terms of WHERE i'm getting the slowdown, it's from the minute to press Start on the main screen and it sticks at about 65% speed all the time. In Ordon Village when i could move around i was getting about 18 or 19FPS and the cut-scenes were slightly better running at 21FPS. Sorry for being such a noob but i don't quite understand what you mean by CPU Bound Versus GPU bound. I thought my CPU would be powerful enough but perhaps this is not the case? I could look at that data but i'm not sure it'll be entirely useful as i'm using an i7 The joys of using an emulator and not knowing what's wrong, eh?
RE: My Computer Specs and questions - Shonumi - 12-09-2013 You've got a lot to learn about emulators Fortunately you're asking the right person.CPU bound means the CPU is the limiting factor of your performance, aka a bottleneck. GPU bound means the same: the GPU is the bottleneck for the system. In Dolphin, the GPU is responsible for IR and AA (Internal Resolution and Anti-Aliasing respectively). If you have a CPU bottleneck, that means your GPU is sufficient to handle whatever IR and AA you have set, but the CPU is slowing down the rest of Dolphin's emulation. When you only have a CPU bottleneck, turning down the IR and AA will have no effect of speed, since neither are the cause of the slowdowns. A GPU bottleneck means that your IR and AA are too high for your GPU to handle without slowing down Dolphin's emulation. Unlike modern PC games (which chiefly rely on the GPU generally for the bulk of their performance) Dolphin is generally very reliant on the CPU for the bulk of its performance. Dolphin is largely a dual-core application, that is to say it dedicates two main threads to do the majority of its processing. You can use a third thread with LLE audio and DSPLLE on a separate thread (but again, it may freeze Wind Waker and Twilight Princess), so at most it will use three cores. The difference between an i5 and an i7 (same microarchitecture e.g Sandy Bridge and at the same clock) is going to be extremely negligible, if noticeable at all. Dolphin also doesn't account for hyper-threading. So in short, our systems are nearly identical in terms of playing Dolphin. We should be getting similar results at any rate; any data I compile will be directly applicable to your situation. Anyway, have you tried OpenGL + Vertex Streaming hack yet? Even on stock, you shouldn't be getting issues with speed though, at least not in Ordon village. Additionally, are you using the Wii or GC version? RE: My Computer Specs and questions - finalfantasy6464 - 12-12-2013 (12-09-2013, 02:46 AM)Shonumi Wrote: You've got a lot to learn about emulatorsI have tried OpenGL + Vertex Streaming Hack (that's what gave me 100% on windwaker) and now in Ordon village it's fine, Faron woods has started becoming framey though instead. I am using the GC version
RE: My Computer Specs and questions - Shonumi - 12-13-2013 Hmm... Faron Woods only gets choppy for me when I turn off the Vertex Streaming Hack. It should be running just fine for you, but if that's not the case, you can just overclock your CPU. if you go the OCing route, make sure you understand what you're doing (read online guides about how to OC a 2600K, there are plenty) and watch your temperatures with something like RealTemp or CoreTemp. Ideally you shouldn't be using a stock cooler for overclocking. |