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dolphin for android? - killown - 05-20-2013
what's the point of porting dolphin on android? I am noticing a lot of commits and spent time on it.
cell phones and tablets has weak hardware and we could count on the fingers how many games would be playable at full fps
RE: dolphin for android? - Shonumi - 05-20-2013
It's for future hardware, realistically. Why not build the software now and let the hardware catch up? If you get things done early, you may be more likely to get it working smoothly when more capable hardware arrives.
RE: dolphin for android? - Starscream - 05-20-2013
(05-20-2013, 06:54 AM)killown Wrote: cell phones and tablets has weak hardware and we could count on the fingers how many games would be playable at full fps
The same thing could have been said when work on Dolphin originally started. I bet you're glad work on Dolphin started in 2002 instead of waiting until the Sandy Bridge CPU came out in 2011? There would be no GC/Wii emulator right now if that was the case.
RE: dolphin for android? - killown - 05-20-2013
(05-20-2013, 07:12 AM)Starscream Wrote:10 years from now we will have an updated emulator emulating very outdated games that's very different from 10 years from 2002(05-20-2013, 06:54 AM)killown Wrote: cell phones and tablets has weak hardware and we could count on the fingers how many games would be playable at full fps
The same thing could have been said when work on Dolphin originally started. I bet you're glad work on Dolphin started in 2002 instead of waiting until the Sandy Bridge CPU came out in 2011? There would be no GC/Wii emulator right now if that was the case.
(05-20-2013, 07:02 AM)Shonumi Wrote: It's for future hardware, realistically. Why not build the software now and let the hardware catch up? If you get things done early, you may be more likely to get it working smoothly when more capable hardware arrives.in that future will be like people in nowadays playing n64 emulator
RE: dolphin for android? - Starscream - 05-20-2013
killown: Maybe you should reread my comments again? In any event, if all of this Android stuff really bothers you, just ignore Android and all of the commits that related to that. None of this is going to affect anything you're doing.
RE: dolphin for android? - killown - 05-20-2013
(05-20-2013, 07:46 AM)Starscream Wrote: killown: Maybe you should reread my comments again? In any event, if all of this Android stuff really bothers you, just ignore Android and all of the commits that related to that. None of this is going to affect anything you're doing.I was just trying to figure out why the time aren't being saved by using it for emulator optimizations instead waste time with a whole new archtecture
RE: dolphin for android? - Shonumi - 05-20-2013
killown Wrote:in that future will be like people in nowadays playing n64 emulator
What do you mean by that? That people will be emulating a system that 2-3 console generations old? It's not like people don't have an active interest in emulating the N64 emulation today, even on their phones.
killown Wrote:I was just trying to figure out why the time aren't being saved by using it for emulator optimizations instead waste time with a whole new archtecture
You act like the development team is a monolithic group that focuses on only certain goals at a time. Dolphin is made up of lots of programmers who work on tasks as they see fit. Some are working on increasing compatibility, crushing long-standing bugs, adding new features. Not all of the current effort is going towards the Android port. Simply because you have no use for an Android port doesn't mean it's time wasted, since it will be useful to others eventually.
RE: dolphin for android? - pauldacheez - 05-20-2013
More to the point, killown, you're making the incorrect assumption that Sonicadvance has the means and motivation to work on anything other than ARM/Android support. A) He didn't own any x86 devices for 11 months (and he doesn't have much money or desk space to spend on them), and B) he's more of a pioneering type than an optimization/bug-fixing type.
RE: dolphin for android? - KHRZ - 05-21-2013
(05-20-2013, 07:52 AM)killown Wrote: I was just trying to figure out why the time aren't being saved by using it for emulator optimizations instead waste time with a whole new archtectureIn a few years when hardware performance have increased, those optimizations may be considered a waste of time compared to support for a new architecture with increasing relevance...
RE: dolphin for android? - Blackstar - 05-31-2013
(05-21-2013, 09:56 PM)KHRZ Wrote: In a few years when hardware performance have increased, those optimizations may be considered a waste of time compared to support for a new architecture with increasing relevance...It may be sooner than that even. Companies like HP and Samsung are making Android laptops now and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the the ones that build their own chips in house (such as Samsung and their Exynos line) opt to create a larger, more powerful ARM CPU to seat in a bigger device