Quote:A cheaper dual-core CPU that barely has any reviews, can perform as good as identically with A quad-core CPU that is on full load, more expensive, is backed up by 100's of reviews and has 4.5 or 5 stars for performance anywhere.

Quote: I think you people are in A dual-core dreamworld or something, because you are the only people saying this.

Quote:GL playing Crysis 2 on A dual-core CPU, or GTA4 or BFBC2 which are all very popular games.

Quote: Roughly half of the games coming out benefit from quad-core CPUs: 1. smoother gameplay 2. faster gameplay.

Quote:And 4.0GHz is very do-able, my friend has the phenom II X4 965 since it came out and keeps it @ that exact number: 4.0, on A STOCK heatsink.

Quote:Like I said, keep checking your hardware and nothing will happen.

Quote:The only game I can think of off the top of my head that's out right now that would have problems with that cpu is BF3

(03-31-2012, 06:05 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: Numbers don't lie my friend.

Quote:A cheaper dual-core CPU that barely has any reviews, can perform as good as identically with A quad-core CPU that is on full load, more expensive, is backed up by 100's of reviews and has 4.5 or 5 stars for performance anywhere.

Popularity and age have nothing to do with performance. I would also disagree with "barely any reviews", just do a google search. Pretty much every major site that has reviewed the K10/K11 architectures has reviewed the sandy bridge pentium models by now.

Quote: I think you people are in A dual-core dreamworld or something, because you are the only people saying this.

Lots of people say this, you're just refusing to listen. Also even if we were the only ones telling you this popularity of opinion does not make something true.

Quote:GL playing Crysis 2 on A dual-core CPU, or GTA4 or BFBC2 which are all very popular games.

Lots of people do this. Dual core sandy bridge cpus can easily handle all three of those with framerates over 80 fps. The only game I can think of off the top of my head that's out right now that would have problems with that cpu is BF3.

Quote: Roughly half of the games coming out benefit from quad-core CPUs: 1. smoother gameplay 2. faster gameplay.

Yes but HOW MUCH? If you have to choose between two faster cores or 4 slower cores the microprocessor with 4 slower cores will only run faster if the software being run makes extensive use of all 4 cores, and MOST games don't, even new games.

I should also point out that if one cpu is capable of running a game at 90 fps average (with a minimum framerate of 60fps) and the other is capable of 120 fps average both cpus are good enough since the gpu or api will likely bottleneck the game when you turn up the settings.

I'm telling you, if you want to get into emulation you need a cpu with good per-thread performance, not a cpu with a lot of cores. Intels low end cpus will provide better performance to you for the same price for the types of applications that you are planning to run. If you were planning on running heavily multithreaded applications such as video encoders or 3D rendering software then I would recommend the phenom II X4 as these types of applications will make extensive use of that architectures advantages.

Quote:And 4.0GHz is very do-able, my friend has the phenom II X4 965 since it came out and keeps it @ that exact number: 4.0, on A STOCK heatsink.

Yes, 4.0GHz is do-able, which I said. 4.5GHz on the other hand is not good for long term use.

Quote:Like I said, keep checking your hardware and nothing will happen.

Not true. It's impossible to measure transitor decay from voltage without an electron microscope. Entire doctorate thesis papers have been written on this subject. Current system stability and temperatures are not the only two observable variables that make an overclock safe.

(03-31-2012, 06:05 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: Numbers don't lie my friend.

Quote:A cheaper dual-core CPU that barely has any reviews, can perform as good as identically with A quad-core CPU that is on full load, more expensive, is backed up by 100's of reviews and has 4.5 or 5 stars for performance anywhere.

Popularity and age have nothing to do with performance. I would also disagree with "barely any reviews", just do a google search. Pretty much every major site that has reviewed the K10/K11 architectures has reviewed the sandy bridge pentium models by now.

Quote: I think you people are in A dual-core dreamworld or something, because you are the only people saying this.

Lots of people say this, you're just refusing to listen. Also even if we were the only ones telling you this popularity of opinion does not make something true.

Quote:GL playing Crysis 2 on A dual-core CPU, or GTA4 or BFBC2 which are all very popular games.

Lots of people do this. Dual core sandy bridge cpus can easily handle all three of those with framerates over 80 fps. The only game I can think of off the top of my head that's out right now that would have problems with that cpu is BF3.

Quote: Roughly half of the games coming out benefit from quad-core CPUs: 1. smoother gameplay 2. faster gameplay.

Yes but HOW MUCH? If you have to choose between two faster cores or 4 slower cores the microprocessor with 4 slower cores will only run faster if the software being run makes extensive use of all 4 cores, and MOST games don't, even new games.

I should also point out that if one cpu is capable of running a game at 90 fps average (with a minimum framerate of 60fps) and the other is capable of 120 fps average both cpus are good enough since the gpu or api will likely bottleneck the game when you turn up the settings.

I'm telling you, if you want to get into emulation you need a cpu with good per-thread performance, not a cpu with a lot of cores. Intels low end cpus will provide better performance to you for the same price for the types of applications that you are planning to run. If you were planning on running heavily multithreaded applications such as video encoders or 3D rendering software then I would recommend the phenom II X4 as these types of applications will make extensive use of that architectures advantages.

Quote:And 4.0GHz is very do-able, my friend has the phenom II X4 965 since it came out and keeps it @ that exact number: 4.0, on A STOCK heatsink.

Yes, 4.0GHz is do-able, which I said. 4.5GHz on the other hand is not good for long term use.

Quote:Like I said, keep checking your hardware and nothing will happen.

Not true. It's impossible to measure transitor decay from voltage without an electron microscope. Entire doctorate thesis papers have been written on this subject. Current system stability and temperatures are not the only two observable variables that make an overclock safe.

(04-03-2012, 05:52 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: ....I'm confused, how does that contradict what I said in any way shape or form?