Dolphin, the GameCube and Wii emulator - Forums

(03-10-2010, 08:42 PM)elite Wrote: [ -> ]I use r5160 x64 and speed is everywhere ok, wind waker right now seems like running full speed: safest texture cache, SSAAx2.25, Vsync and even copy EFB to RAM. For me problems are more about stability and emulation:

Well yes, with a 3.6GHz dual core processor, you're not going to notice any slowdown as people with a 2.0GHz dual core would. So to you it really does not matter what revision is slower than the others because your CPU is strong enough to power through to full speed no matter what.

Can some of you who are testing put your PC specs in your sig, or at least in your post so we know what we're working with?

(03-11-2010, 07:55 AM)[SS] Starscream Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-10-2010, 08:42 PM)elite Wrote: [ -> ]I use r5160 x64 and speed is everywhere ok, wind waker right now seems like running full speed: safest texture cache, SSAAx2.25, Vsync and even copy EFB to RAM. For me problems are more about stability and emulation:

Well yes, with a 3.6GHz dual core processor, you're not going to notice any slowdown as people with a 2.0GHz dual core would. So to you it really does not matter what revision is slower than the others because your CPU is strong enough to power through to full speed no matter what.

Can some of you who are testing put your PC specs in your sig, or at least in your post so we know what we're working with?

I know but thing is, my setup today doesn't cost fortune and spending time implementing various hacks and speedups while risking breaking code along the way and maintaining it is maybe not worth. You can do only as much to get maximum compatibility with reasonable speed. Anyone who is truly serious about emulation should have adequate setup for it.

Well, that's your opinion, but I do believe that the ultimate goal after getting the emulator as accurate and as compatible as they can, is to lower the needed specs to run it.

As far as testing speed, you really can't help as much as someone with a slower system can. Using your system won't show any different results as it will always be pretty much full speed all the time, whereas with a system like mine, you can actually see speed increases or decreases. Being able to see a how different code and commits effect games is what testing is all about in a project like this.

(03-11-2010, 10:02 AM)elite Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-11-2010, 07:55 AM)[SS] Starscream Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-10-2010, 08:42 PM)elite Wrote: [ -> ]I use r5160 x64 and speed is everywhere ok, wind waker right now seems like running full speed: safest texture cache, SSAAx2.25, Vsync and even copy EFB to RAM. For me problems are more about stability and emulation:

Well yes, with a 3.6GHz dual core processor, you're not going to notice any slowdown as people with a 2.0GHz dual core would. So to you it really does not matter what revision is slower than the others because your CPU is strong enough to power through to full speed no matter what.

Can some of you who are testing put your PC specs in your sig, or at least in your post so we know what we're working with?

I know but thing is, my setup today doesn't cost fortune and spending time implementing various hacks and speedups while risking breaking code along the way and maintaining it is maybe not worth. You can do only as much to get maximum compatibility with reasonable speed. Anyone who is truly serious about emulation should have adequate setup for it.

Anyone who is truly serious about emulation should have adequate setup for it.... What kind of statement is that. Its not like its my fulltime job playing emulators. Its just something to do in your spare time.
For me I am in a situation where I just cant buy a i7 or whatever. Its just not that i dont want it.. its just i cant afford something like that. If i prioritised buying a computer like that I think my girlfriend would rip my head off.
And if the goal is to make the perfect emulator for a handful of people then is there any point in making an emulator to begin with.

(03-11-2010, 10:02 AM)elite Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone who is truly serious about emulation should have adequate setup for it.

I second this statement by elite 100%

I'm sick and tired of noobs coming into the forums crying and bitching that they can't run mario galaxy at good speeds when they have a fucking dual core laptop at 1.6ghz and integrated intel graphics, then they go on saying that they got better speed with an older rev.
not the case with anyone on this thread but its an extreme example.
get with the century people, buy a decent pc and stop complaining.

RC1 is incredibly stable for me and no slowdowns compared to older revs. (at least with my games)

(03-11-2010, 12:17 PM)Apostacious Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-11-2010, 10:02 AM)elite Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone who is truly serious about emulation should have adequate setup for it.

I second this statement by elite 100%

I'm sick and tired of noobs coming into the forums crying and bitching that they can't run mario galaxy at good speeds when they have a fucking dual core laptop at 1.6ghz and integrated intel graphics, then they go on saying that they got better speed with an older rev.
not the case with anyone on this thread but its an extreme example.
get with the century people, buy a decent pc and stop complaining.

RC1 is incredibly stable for me and no slowdowns compared to older revs. (at least with my games)

You know I agree with you. I am one of the people who have a low end computer, but i dont go around bitching about that i can not run one of the hottest Wii games. Im just happy if i find one i can run here and there.

But saying that you need to have a monster of a computer if you are serious about emulation is just.. well a bit lame.

Anyway what does it mean to be serious about emulation?
Is that when you leave your day job and start doing it on a professonal basis.

Well, I'm not going to argue what kind of a PC people should be buying. What I'm doing is comparing the PC that I do have with the current state of Dolphin.

why are you playing the games stretched? goto graphics plugin, and change aspect ratio to 4:3

You people didn't understand my statement so let me clarify:

- "monster PC" >> Do I have one? My old intel cpu is neither expensive nor monster, its that overclock what made it a bit "monster". You don't need nehalem for God's sake. If you don't need to play all games full speed and only try to compare revisions, thats ok. But most people actually do complain, without knowledge what changes made it. If for example new revision make Dolphin slower and in SVN page where you can see changes you don't see anything that makes it reasonable, then by all means you should report. But I DO see very important changes lately like to safe texturing that made many games look correct yet came with speed penalty. Here I don't see reason to complain, compatibility at first.

- "serious about emulation" >> What's not to understand? Common what you mean by "job"?! I simply mean anyone who consider playing those games on PC a LOT with mind to complete them from start to finish. Also some people may consider to also play on other emulators, like PCSX2 etc..

-"Well, that's your opinion, but I do believe that the ultimate goal after getting the emulator as accurate and as compatible as they can, is to lower the needed specs to run it." >> yes and thats what I mean, there is still LOT to do before its complete enough, there are many problems - still. After that, am all for optimizations.

Bottom line what I meant was:
If you are only lightly playing with emulator and are just curious and informative about revisions, its all right. Most people do mean however.
You don't need monster PC to play full speed, you don't need nehalem. Cheap intel with a bit of overclock is enough.
If you really consider to play most of these games on PC, you simply have to have adequate setup for it. My 3.6ghz is not that unique for almost all current(and older) intel cpus. Notebook is problem of course, but anyone who bought one shall knew it cannot pull such performance as desktop.
As for speed vs compatibility, I already stated that "You can only do as much" and that was my main point in this discussion.

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I tested a few other games too, there didn't seem to be absolutely any difference in fps. All settings were at highest and 9xaa was enabled. You disabled audio throttle in dsp and put framelimit on auto right?