01-08-2010, 02:23 AM
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01-08-2010, 08:51 AM
(01-08-2010, 01:57 AM)nagazul Wrote: [ -> ]Hi guys and thanks for your first feedback
I am the administrator of the Dolphin Shop. Actually this is a first small test how users accpect a Dolphin Shop.
I was in contact with Administrators of Dolphin-Emu to offer the Dolphin project sponsoring through the Shop. This Sponsoring needs to be discussed in the team first. At the moment the Dolphin shop is non-offical and does only come to you tough the google ads. I would look very forward to an intensive cooperation and sponsoring of the project because i really like Dolphin project. I already introduced myself and my sponsoring projects of the last years (miranda-im.org for example) to the team members.
I will add a notice to my shop that it is no affiliated with dolphin (at the moment) and i will change the logo if Chaoscode will ask me to do so. Anyway the Dolphin Projects already profits from the google ads. As I said, actually it is only a test and everything what will happen in future will depent on the administrators of Dolphin.
Shame on you Apostacious for doubting this fine young business man!
*Que's the hounds..
01-08-2010, 08:57 AM
This is strange, emulator is free, yet alone you have to buy stuff for it from related shop. There wouldn't have been any problem if it wasn't related... It may partially break Dolphin's GNU license, unless you'll have the permission to continue your work
01-08-2010, 09:33 AM
Wow, really? you used our logo? I'm gonna ask nicely for you to stop. This is not related to dolphin project in any way. Nothing bought there will contribute to the project. We "ector and I" talked to the owner in a respectful way and declined to sponsor him. I will quote my email. Honestly, ector was going to bring it up with the devs and talk about it but this shoots any chance you will ever have with being official with us. I think a public shaming is in order. SHAME SHAME!
"Re: Dolphin Hardware Shop / Copy of my mail to you
To: nagazul
BCC: ector
Hello Christian from germany,
I do appreciate you thinking about us and offering to help support are project. It is very kind. However, as a opensource self sustaining project, we would like to stay away from anything other then ad's with google. If this changes at all I will keep you in mind but for the time being we will have to decline. Thanks again and I wish you luck with your venture.
Chris/ChaosCode
nagazul Wrote:
Hi Chaoscode,
this is Christian from germany. I saw you are marked as the Main Administrator for the Website. I want to make you and the dolphin team an offer.
I'm nearly finished with my new hardware Shop for the Dolphin Emulator. Users can buy Wii Remote Nunchuck, Callic Controllers USB Sensorbars etc in there.
Now, where Dolphin supports up to 4 Wii (and the Desyncs are mostly gone) i think a lot of your users would be intered real Wii Mote Controllers.
Its nice to have for the users and i can sponsor the website to lowser server costs etc. I made a demo Screenshot of the site to demonstrate how discreet it can look like.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5233/...opdemo.jpg
I can sponsort you with 5% on sales or 2usd each order. i also offer a free bluetooth dongle. you also would get 2usd if costomers "buy" only free bluetooth dongle.
From my site i'm getting finished with the shop these ours. Freel Free to contact me over the forum, by mail (privat-erreichbar@gmx.de) or my msn (picasso@telda.net). my msn has no mail support.
I really hope to hear from you. I already spend hours of this idea :-)
Christian"
"Re: Dolphin Hardware Shop / Copy of my mail to you
To: nagazul
BCC: ector
Hello Christian from germany,
I do appreciate you thinking about us and offering to help support are project. It is very kind. However, as a opensource self sustaining project, we would like to stay away from anything other then ad's with google. If this changes at all I will keep you in mind but for the time being we will have to decline. Thanks again and I wish you luck with your venture.
Chris/ChaosCode
nagazul Wrote:
Hi Chaoscode,
this is Christian from germany. I saw you are marked as the Main Administrator for the Website. I want to make you and the dolphin team an offer.
I'm nearly finished with my new hardware Shop for the Dolphin Emulator. Users can buy Wii Remote Nunchuck, Callic Controllers USB Sensorbars etc in there.
Now, where Dolphin supports up to 4 Wii (and the Desyncs are mostly gone) i think a lot of your users would be intered real Wii Mote Controllers.
Its nice to have for the users and i can sponsor the website to lowser server costs etc. I made a demo Screenshot of the site to demonstrate how discreet it can look like.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5233/...opdemo.jpg
I can sponsort you with 5% on sales or 2usd each order. i also offer a free bluetooth dongle. you also would get 2usd if costomers "buy" only free bluetooth dongle.
From my site i'm getting finished with the shop these ours. Freel Free to contact me over the forum, by mail (privat-erreichbar@gmx.de) or my msn (picasso@telda.net). my msn has no mail support.
I really hope to hear from you. I already spend hours of this idea :-)
Christian"
nagazul
01-08-2010, 05:08 PM
(01-08-2010, 09:33 AM)Chaoscode Wrote: [ -> ]Wow, really? you used our logo? I'm gonna ask nicely for you to stop.No question, I will change that within the next 4 hours.
(01-08-2010, 09:33 AM)Chaoscode Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing bought there will contribute to the project.Well thats not 100% true as the project gains from the google advertising as it does from any other google ad.
(01-08-2010, 09:33 AM)Chaoscode Wrote: [ -> ]We "ector and I" talked to the owner in a respectful way and declined to sponsor him. I will quote my email. Honestly, ector was going to bring it up with the devs and talk about it but this shoots any chance you will ever have with being official with us. I think a public shaming is in order. SHAME SHAME!Well there was further email communication from my site witch is not posted here. I worte that also it would be possible (if its complicate for the project to recive money) to sponsor the developers with free wii hardware cause i notice that even developers that work on multi wimote support do not have 4 wii motes. Or even with server hardware, datacenter hosting or anything else. My engagement to the dolphin project is based on positive thinking. I do not want something bad for anyone.
I want to say I'm verry sorry that my only-12-hours performance test did frighten you so much. As I said changes will be made in only 4 hours. Chris may I ask you to take my private email and msn adress out of our post? Thank you. Hope you are able to excuse me. I really want to be in friendship with you and the project.
01-08-2010, 08:07 PM
Nazagul, get lost. I said we should discuss it, I did not give you a green light.
Stop using our name and logo immediately please. Forget about us ever working with you.
Stop using our name and logo immediately please. Forget about us ever working with you.
nagazul
01-08-2010, 09:41 PM
(01-08-2010, 08:07 PM)ector Wrote: [ -> ]Nazagul, get lost. I said we should discuss it, I did not give you a green light.
Stop using our name and logo immediately please. Forget about us ever working with you.
Dear ector, Dear chaoscode,
i really ask you to accept my excuse. When you said that it is a problem for the Dolphin Project to accept donations at the moment thought it would be a good idea to support the developers with hardware. For example a free wiimote for the developers after sold 5-8 Wii Remotes sold i the shop. It was a fault of mine to make this convertion rate test with the dolpin logo. And i already said sorry in here several times. The statistics show that only arround 100 people may have seen the Dolphin-Shop Logo. Remeber you have over 4 Million visitors. That is a very small amount. I see it was a fault now, but I did not expect that much negative reaction because I had only positive things for the project in mind.
Of cause I canged the logo immedeatelly when I read Chaoscodes post. I had a important appointment today morning. So there were only 4 hours between reading the post and changing the Store.
You both seem very mad on me. I dont like the role of the bad guy - I'm not feeling myself as a ad guy. Anyway i said - and will say - sorry for using the logo for 12 hours without a true permission. I did never wanted to put a damage to dolphin or to one of its members. The opposite was my intention.
01-08-2010, 10:20 PM
issue is closed.
02-24-2010, 04:05 AM
I know Zilmar uses N64 part store ads on his site, if we knew a shop that sold Wii parts and stuff, could get payed for advertising their store.
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