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(06-17-2018, 02:23 PM)KHg8m3r Wrote: [ -> ]You first might want to figure out how to quote a post, and not put your reply inside the quote (hint: your stuff goes after the

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As for building your own computer, its super easy. It's just like expensive LEGOs, everything just slots in to where it's supposed to go. If you're having to force it, that's not where it goes. There are some guides and Youtube videos you could watch to get confidence, or disassemble an old tower you may have lying around. Then you can brag to all your friends that you build your own computer and that they need to join you in the PC master race
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I hope I did it right this time. Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm scared I might do something wrong because I'm kind of a dummy when it comes to that. I'll just buy my PC

(06-17-2018, 02:40 PM)Supahead79 Wrote: [ -> ]part)

As for building your own computer, its super easy. It's just like expensive LEGOs, everything just slots in to where it's supposed to go. If you're having to force it, that's not where it goes. There are some guides and Youtube videos you could watch to get confidence, or disassemble an old tower you may have lying around. Then you can brag to all your friends that you build your own computer and that they need to join you in the PC master race

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I hope I did it right this time. Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm scared I might do something wrong because I'm kind of a dummy when it comes to that. I'll just buy my PC
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This time you overshot, so now the reply is in your response as opposed to the reverse. If you are quoting a single post the best option is to click reply and use the default formatting (and start typing at the bottom). The way you just did it even breaks replying.

As for the computer, if you don’t want to build don’t feel forced to. It’s always your choice. We are just showing you options because some people are willing to build but haven’t considered it.

 


I hope I did it right this time.  Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm scared I might do something wrong because I'm kind of a dummy when it comes to that.  I'll just buy my PC
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This time you overshot,  so now the reply is in your response as opposed to the reverse.  If you are quoting a single post the best option is to click reply and use the default formatting (and start typing at the bottom).  The way you just did it even breaks replying.

As for the computer,  if you don’t want to build don’t feel forced to.  It’s always your choice.  We are just showing you options because some people are willing to build but haven’t considered it.
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Thanks for your help

@Supahead79 This is a fixed Build PC setups? I'm asking cause you posting strange combinations..

For example 16GB of Ram means nothing..
MHz & Dual-Channel or Quad-Channel matters more than Ram capacity if you are focusing on gaming, especially for Ryzen CPUs
Also the maximum MHz Frequency for Ryzen Motherboards are: DDR4 4000(O.C) 3200(O.C.) / 2933(O.C.) / 2667 / 2400 / 2133 MHz
Meaning you can have only 2667 ram without using Ram Overclock, some motherboards support XMP Profile which allowing you to reach 3200(O.C)
But you need a bit of luck or research to get the right Ram Model for the Right Motherboard Model : )

Now about CPU, we are all know Intel 7700k 8700k and oldest I5 I7 Gaming Models preforms Better than AMD CPUs on Higher Frame Rates..
The reason is Intel forcing that specific CPUs to focusing on Higher Single Core Frequency's. (But I call this..The old way gaming)..


If you are asking about Emulation, Dolphin-Emu Supports Vulkan which give a Huge Advantages to AMD Ryzen CPUs
(The future for PC Gaming is DX12 & Vulkan some people will not agree but that's the truth, it looks like beyond our expectations but someday)..

So if your pocket is big enough I totally recommend you to make your PC piece by piece.

For example Intel 7700K cost  close to Ryzen2700X  price what's the point to get that Intel CPU?
If you want Intel you should go for Intel 8700K which cost

Also don't even think to buy Radeon Card at the moment..
Go for Nvidia 1050Ti 4gb or Nvidia 1060 6GB

Rest Tips like KHg8m3r said is on youtube, but always we can help you here

(06-20-2018, 05:48 AM)BlackAngel Wrote: [ -> ]@Supahead79 This is a fixed Build PC setups? I'm asking cause you posting strange combinations..

For example 16GB of Ram means nothing..
MHz & Dual-Channel or Quad-Channel matters more than Ram capacity if you are focusing on gaming, especially for Ryzen CPUs
Also the maximum MHz Frequency for Ryzen Motherboards are: DDR4 4000(O.C) 3200(O.C.) / 2933(O.C.) / 2667 / 2400 / 2133 MHz
Meaning you can have only 2667 ram without using Ram Overclock, some motherboards support XMP Profile which allowing you to reach 3200(O.C)
But you need a bit of luck or research to get the right Ram Model for the Right Motherboard Model : )

Now about CPU, we are all know Intel 7700k 8700k and oldest I5 I7 Gaming Models preforms Better than AMD CPUs on Higher Frame Rates..
The reason is Intel forcing that specific CPUs to focusing on Higher Single Core Frequency's. (But I call this..The old way gaming)..


If you are asking about Emulation, Dolphin-Emu Supports Vulkan which give a Huge Advantages to AMD Ryzen CPUs
(The future for PC Gaming is DX12 & Vulkan some people will not agree but that's the truth, it looks like beyond our expectations but someday)..

So if your pocket is big enough I totally recommend you to make your PC piece by piece.

For example Intel 7700K cost  close to Ryzen2700X  price what's the point to get that Intel CPU?
If you want Intel you should go for Intel 8700K which cost

Also don't even think to buy Radeon Card at the moment..
Go for Nvidia 1050Ti 4gb or Nvidia 1060 6GB

Rest Tips like KHg8m3r said is on youtube, but always we can help you here

So your logic about multi core being the future is absolutely correct. That being said, at that segment the difference between Ryzen and Intel for gaming is irrelevant. But for dolphin, intel continues to hold a lead due to single core performance (a trait that will not change, and that newer API’s like DX12 and Vulkan don’t fix). AMD is designing CPU’s for multi core workloads that simply aren’t happening yet. This was a problem with the FX lineup, and while the software situation is better now it’s still not utilizing more than 4-6 cores effectively. Recommending AMD CPU’s based on how software *could* be in 5 years isn’t good when building a system now. Ryzen is great, but what makes it great is the value and potential for productivity and rendering workloads. For a gamer and an emulator enthusiast, Intel is still faster, if a bit pricier.

(06-20-2018, 01:26 PM)Nintonito Wrote: [ -> ]So your logic about multi core being the future is absolutely correct.  That being said, at that segment the difference between Ryzen and Intel for gaming is irrelevant.  But for dolphin,  intel continues to hold a lead due to single core performance (a trait that will not change, and that newer API’s like DX12 and Vulkan don’t fix).  AMD is designing CPU’s for multi core workloads that simply aren’t happening yet.  This was a problem with the FX lineup,  and while the software situation is better now it’s still not utilizing more than 4-6 cores effectively.  Recommending AMD CPU’s based on how software *could* be in 5 years isn’t good when building a system now.  Ryzen is great,  but what makes it great is the value and potential for productivity and rendering workloads.  For a gamer and an emulator enthusiast,  Intel is still faster,  if a bit pricier.

The Intel/NVIDIA I listed is actually is $1,079 and the Ryzen/ AMD Radeon is $1,150

(06-20-2018, 01:26 PM)Nintonito Wrote: [ -> ]So your logic about multi core being the future is absolutely correct.  That being said, at that segment the difference between Ryzen and Intel for gaming is irrelevant.  But for dolphin,  intel continues to hold a lead due to single core performance (a trait that will not change, and that newer API’s like DX12 and Vulkan don’t fix).  AMD is designing CPU’s for multi core workloads that simply aren’t happening yet.  This was a problem with the FX lineup,  and while the software situation is better now it’s still not utilizing more than 4-6 cores effectively.  Recommending AMD CPU’s based on how software *could* be in 5 years isn’t good when building a system now.  Ryzen is great,  but what makes it great is the value and potential for productivity and rendering workloads.  For a gamer and an emulator enthusiast,  Intel is still faster,  if a bit pricier.

well I'm not totally agree about pc gaming..
I tell you why..  I own internet Cafe testing PC Builds about 10 years.. performance, price value, high temps & voltage consumption is top priority for me..
like I said the old days Intel was top, today things are change..
At the moment high fps frame rate doesn't really matter, only average and lower.. I have done plenty of benchmarks ryzen 1700 ryzen 2700x and kabylake setups like 7700K 8700k  do you know wanna know the difference between 1700 & 8700k?
Not even 2700x this cpu is another level..

Well both setups 16gb ram 3200MHz & Nvidia 1060 6gb unbuffed unclocked.
demand games like Witcher 3 Final Fantasy 15 world of warcraft raiding mode guild wars 2 openworld raiding. 1080p ultra graphics. both cpus locked on 60fps.  wow gw2 it's around 64 fps on 1700  72fps on 8700k so what's the difference here..  Ryzen perform lower voltage consumption also max temps 45-48c  Kabylake perform higher voltage and higher cpu usage and higher temps around 55c..

About dolphin-emu you are absolutely right and not only dolphin-emu.. most console emulators depends on single core so Intel have advantages..

personally I don't have any problem with my ryzen..
FPS are stable with dolphin-emu I can play most of games on 4k resolution and my card is gpu is GTX 960 and you know what I'm using dx11 not vulkan

(06-20-2018, 03:22 PM)Supahead79 Wrote: [ -> ]The Intel/NVIDIA I listed is actually is $1,079 and the Ryzen/ AMD Radeon is $1,150

if you want a cheap pc build with average performance  you should combine Ryzen 5 2600 with Nvidia gtx 1050 4gb

otherwise you have to choice between ryzen 2700x 1050 or 1060gtx or Intel 8700k 1050 or 1060gtx remember Intel prices are always bit higher..

If you want pure gaming go for Intel if are going to streaming or rendering plus gaming go for ryzen