(12-13-2017, 05:28 PM)Billy Dior Wrote: [ -> ]I'm presently running an 8350, GTX 970, EVGA Supernova 1000 G2 Gold PSU, Samsung 850 Pro SSD, and 16gb Ripjaw, win 7 Ult. While an old build by whatever is out now, it does fine until either the gpu is stressed (pretty much any modern PC game) or the CPU is stressed (newest emulators with eye candy settings).
Been thinking about making the jump to a modern Intel for better overall performance going forward, but with all the different chip variants etc., not sure what makes the most sense?
1. Would prefer 8 core or better w/o going over a soft-cap of $500 for just the chip. Looking to OC if/when needed. Looking to get at least 5 years out of it performance-wise, and modern emulators going forward are to be considered.
2. Need a modern mobo for it that allows OC (w/o arbitrary nerfs to "hide" hardware limitations).
3. Are special RAM sticks needed for Intel builds? If so, what's good for the recommended chip from (1.) above? Will probably stick with 16gb.
4. Is there anything wonky with the psu requirements for Intel mobo? Will my EVGA be compatable?
5. Anything else to consider jumping brands?
These discussions about Intel vs. AMD tend to get passionate. I feel absolutely no loyalty to any corporation, except to my employer :-) so I would advise you to simply look at the benchmark chart for yourself. You'll notice that AMD, Ryzen or not, is still distant second fiddle, heck, cowbell player, to Intel, when it comes to emulation. Therefore, your choice should ideally strike a balance among your objectives, e.g., emulation, PC gaming with streaming or recording which benefits from multiple cores or threads, etc.
I'm holding off myself until DDR4 comes down in price to acceptable levels.
(12-13-2017, 10:54 PM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]There are also some rumors about the next gen Ryzen II (2000 series), are reportedly arriving in early 2018 !
Well the first half of 2018 is practically guaranteed, though it's not quite known just how early we're talking (could be February, could be May).
(12-13-2017, 10:54 PM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]Ryzen II is expected to have higher clock speed than Ryzen 1
Indeed it's likely.
(12-13-2017, 10:54 PM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ](Ryzen 2700 is a 10 cores 10 threads processor and it will run at 4.5GHz while Ryzen 2800 Threadripper Ver2 will feature 12 cores 24 threads @ 5.1GHz)
That actually fake. Don't expect any increase in maximum core counts until 7nm Zen2 (very late 2018 to 2019), but something like a 10% bump in clockrate (~4.4GHz) for 12nm Zen+ definitely seems reasonable as there are Threadripper CPUs already hitting 4.3GHz.
(12-13-2017, 11:20 PM)themanuel Wrote: [ -> ]...snip...
I'm holding off myself until DDR4 comes down in price to acceptable levels.
Indeed I am holding off for this reason too, not to mention I am also waiting for Ryzen 2. I wonder though if the price of ram will actually come down in any great amount any time soonish....
They will as soon as capacity (the manufacturing kind) increases or demand lowers (Apple and others stop releasing phones as often). Add in the switch selling millions of units and other consumer electronics all using NAND modules (Made by generally the same manufacturers that make RAM modules) and you get higher prices.
The good news is Samsung (and others) have noticed the increase in demand for DRAM and now that they can gouge *cough I mean now that it is financial viable to make RAM componets again they are increasing capacity (again the manufacturing kind).
Well, how about a 6 core (12t) like the i7 8700K? Is this like a big brother to the i7 7700k?
Is there a non integrated graphics variant of the 8700K?
(12-15-2017, 07:54 PM)Billy Dior Wrote: [ -> ]Well, how about a 6 core (12t) like the i7 8700K? Is this like a big brother to the i7 7700k?
Is there a non integrated graphics variant of the 8700K?
I don't think you can buy any desktop CPU that don't have intergrated graphics.
(12-15-2017, 11:22 PM)ExtremeDude2 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think you can buy any desktop CPU that don't have intergrated graphics.
All currently available desktop Ryzen CPUs lack integrated graphics.
The AM4 motherboards have video outputs specifically for the A-series and for whenever Ryzen APUs actually become available.