Dolphin, the GameCube and Wii emulator - Forums

Of course there are specific posts being made, but because the way these rules have been set down, a post like this one is a perfect example;

https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-wii-xenoblade-chronicles

Every different kind of issue as it relates to the game is being spoken of here, so that means, instead of allowing someone to make a specific post because they lack the forum post requirements, then they have to post in a general post like this. Now someone is going to have to read through hundreds of posts to look for something that might pertain to them, but if this person with a low post count could of made a specific post issue, we help to get rid of this type of problem, and make it easier to search on the forum search tool for specific problems...

Now more specific named posts by lower post count members can be more easily tracked, for anyone trying to also find help with the same problem...

This is the biggest problem here, I hope this is clear now?

Thanks

I just want to point out that nothing would prohibit you from making a thread in the Support Forum. It's not a hardcore, set-in-stone rule that any topic relating to XBC must go in that thread. We have game specific threads because that's far better in terms of organization (we used to have a very Wild West approach, and it was haphazard at best). But you still see people posting their problems in Support; it's there as a catch-all if you feel it doesn't belong in any other designated area, or if you want to draw attention to a very particular problem in Dolphin.

(11-12-2017, 09:54 AM)JMC47 Wrote: [ -> ]The big thing is that's not how those forums work.  Maybe it needs to be easier to search for various games, but, each game gets each one thread.  But those threads are more or less for discussion about those games and documenting issues long term in the first post.

If you want support for a particular issue, then post in the support section like everyone else.

Camera stutter doesn't really sound like an issue in Dolphin though, it's probably something typical like shaders generation or an inefficient graphical drivers limiting things.  Also, stuff like vsync can also cause it.

Look at my last reply, I don't see this happening, the Xenoblade Chronicles post is a good example 144 pages to dates on many different subjects of support, that would of been better served in the forum to the community by having their own posts, on that subject matter.

That's just one big forum hijack... Hmm

(11-12-2017, 10:12 AM)Shonumi Wrote: [ -> ]I just want to point out that nothing would prohibit you from making a thread in the Support Forum. It's not a hardcore, set-in-stone rule that any topic relating to XBC must go in that thread. We have game specific threads because that's far better in terms of organization (we used to have a very Wild West approach, and it was haphazard at best). But you still see people posting their problems in Support; it's there as a catch-all if you feel it doesn't belong in any other designated area, or if you want to draw attention to a very particular problem in Dolphin.

Yes I understand, you have Dolphin Support;

https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Forum-support

And Wii Game Support;

https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Forum-wii--37

But out of respect to everyone here, and of course following the rules of posting in a proper place, I have actually a Game Support problem, so I assumed I should post in the Wii section, but I can't because I don't meet the 1000 post requirement...

"DoWii Wrote:But out of respect to everyone here, and of course following the rules of posting in a proper place, I have actually a Game Support problem, so I assumed I should post in the Wii section, but I can't because I don't meet the 1000 post requirement...

You still seem confused by our forum structure? You just make a post in the XBC thread rather than making a new XBC thread in the Game Support Forum. But you could also ask for help in a new thread in Support. Whichever you feel is more convenient (just not both at the same time). They're both the proper place.

Well, we're doing what works for us, based on our years of experience and experimentation. You may disagree (and that's ok!) but we're pretty happy with the structure we have in place right now.

@JMC47, the camera stutter doesn't happen as much or at all when I tried 4.x versions of Dolphin, 5.x gets worse, anyhow, don't want to take this off topic, thanks for the input...

@Shonumi and MayImilae?

Ok as long as you don't mind someone posting in the Support section for a game problem, then ok...

But if you'd rather have them post in like the XBC post, don't you see the madness in that? Unless people read through pages of posts to then stop at one particular one and read about that problem, someone is going to be passed by is one problem, and then asking members to also read through all the posts to help.

Example I haven't been on the forum in days or weeks, and somene makes a post in XBC that I have good experience and could help that person, now I'd have to go back digging and reading through all those posts to see it...

This is also just putting an unfair amount of work on the end-users, don't you think? All I'm saying by the way it's looking a post of XBC seems like what's happening here...

Hmm

DoWii Wrote:But if you'd rather have them post in like the XBC post, don't you see the madness in that? Unless people read through pages of posts to then stop at one particular one and read about that problem, someone is going to be passed by is one problem, and then asking members to also read through all the posts to help.

It's not like these threads generate 100 new posts a day or something, in which case following up on questions may become problematic. But at best you're browsing through a handful of pages given the traffic we have now. I.e., for the XBC thread, the last 10 pages span the past 11 months, which isn't a lot. These threads used to be a lot busier, but even then, they handled well enough. If you feel your question hasn't been answered and people may have passed it up, you're free to bring it back up again and ask for more help. You can also link to/quote from your previous posts so users don't have to search through anything. It's important to remember that not every question has an answer from the community. So, some things don't go unnoticed, but they don't get a reply either, regardless if it's a post in Game Support or its own thread elsewhere.

DoWii Wrote:This is also just putting an unfair amount of work on the end-users, don't you think? All I'm saying by the way it's looking a post of XBC seems like what's happening here...

All a user has to do is... ask a question and wait for an answer. If they don't get an answer right away, they can ask again in case someone new sees their question. As long as the user provides enough information each time they ask, other people wanting to help won't even have to backtrack to previous posts to see the situation.

(11-12-2017, 11:48 AM)DoWii Wrote: [ -> ]Example I haven't been on the forum in days or weeks, and somene makes a post in XBC that I have good experience and could help that person, now I'd have to go back digging and reading through all those posts to see it...

This is also just putting an unfair amount of work on the end-users, don't you think? All I'm saying by the way it's looking a post of XBC seems like what's happening here...

No, it doesn't. You might not have noticed, but at the end of every thread, there's the following search field:



So, following your Xenoblade Chronicles example, you would just need to go into the existing thread and type "camera" on this search field, which would currently return you only 16 posts, giving you the ability to jump exactly the page where "camera" was mentioned, with the word highlighted, no matter how many pages the thread has. If you're the, let's say, "impatient" type, which can't bothered to read some posts, you also have the option to just create a new thread asking about your problem in the Support subforum and wait for answers. I sincerely fail to see how either of those two options can be characterized as "unfair amount of work on the end-user".

About the >1000 post requirement in the Game Support subforums, as others said, it's there and it's intentionally very high because you aren't supposed to create new threads here, you should use the existing ones, as this essentially limits the users who can post here to the forum/wiki/moderation staff and a few very old users that are registered there for enough time to know how our subforum divisions works in practice...

Wait, is it April 1st already?