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Does run the ryzen 7 chips all games in fullspeed? the benchmarks are interesting, but even with them I can't know how good tp, galaxy 1/2 etc run with that cpu.

It probably will.

Ryzen seems to only be matching single core performance of chips 2-3 years ago, but intel chips 2-3 years ago ran games full speed just fine.

If you want a Ryzen system, playing Dolphin on it shouldn't be an issue.

oh okay, that's nice. My i3 3220 can not run every game on fullspeed so I'm little worried about that, okay I can't buy me a new pc in the next months anyway, so idk if I will buy amd or intel. I though you need to overclock 3 year old intel chips? or are the dolphin optimizations that good?

I need to oc my i5 3570k to get useable framerates in some of the heavier games like The Last Story and Xenoblade but stock speeds are perfectly fine for most games.

According tot he Dolphin bench Ryzen is quicker then my i5 running at 3.8-4.2ghz I can't tell the real numbers ans different applications give me different numbers aka windows says its running between 4.18 and 4.22ghz while cpuz says 3.8ghz so I don't know which to beleive right now. I still ret roughly 10mins on the dolphin bench while Ryzen gets closer to 7mins

Ryzen really have some problems...

Quote:“In addition to Lisa’s comments, there are also some variables that could affect performance:

1) Early motherboard BIOSes were certainly troubled: disabling unrelated features would turn off cores. Setting memory overclocks on some motherboards would disable boost. Some BIOS revisions would plain produce universally suppressed performance.

2) Ryzen benefits from disabling High Precision Event Timers (HPET). The timer resolution of HPET can cause an observer effect that can subtract performance. This is a BIOS option, or a function that can be disabled from the Windows command shell.

3) Ryzen benefits from enabling the High Performance power profile. This overrides core parking. Eventually we will have a driver that allows people to stay on balanced and disable core parking anyways. Gamers have been doing this for a while, too. I misspoke, here. I want to clarify the benefit: High Performance mode allows the CPU to update its voltage/clockspeed in 1ms, vs. the 30ms that it takes balanced mode. This is what our driver will accomplish. Apologies for the confusion!

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-launch-aftermath-gaming-performance-amd-response/

I just realized - Dolphin's performance relative to other software is kind of the opposite between Haswell and Ryzen.


Haswell had 5-10% faster IPC than Ivy Bridge overall, but was ~30% faster per-GHz in Dolphin.

Ryzen has 0-1% faster IPC than Broadwell-E overall, but is ~30% slower per-GHz in Dolphin.

(03-05-2017, 06:10 AM)DarkHacker Wrote: [ -> ]Ryzen really have some problems...


http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-launch-aftermath-gaming-performance-amd-response/

These sound more like BIOS and OS-side issues to me, especially in light of the following:

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/page-8#post-38775732 Wrote:I did some 3D testing and eventhou there is not nearly enough data to confirm it, I'd say the SMT regression is infact a Windows 10 related issue.
In 3D testing I did recently on Windows 10, the title which illustrated the biggest SMT regression was Total War: Warhammer.

All of these were recorded at 3.5GHz, 2133MHz MEMCLK with R9 Nano:

Windows 10 - 1080 Ultra DX11:

8C/16T - 49.39fps (Min), 72.36fps (Avg)
8C/8T - 57.16fps (Min), 72.46fps (Avg)

Windows 7 - 1080 Ultra DX11:

8C/16T - 62.33fps (Min), 78.18fps (Avg)
8C/8T - 62.00fps (Min), 73.22fps (Avg)

At the moment this is just pure speculation as there were variables, which could not be isolated.
Windows 10 figures were recorded using PresentMon (OCAT), however with Windows 7 it was necessary to use Fraps.

Quick, somebody try the Dolphin benchmark with Ryzen on Windows 7!

(Linux kernel 4.9.10 might also work)

(03-05-2017, 04:18 PM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: [ -> ]I just realized - Dolphin's performance relative to other software is kind of the opposite between Haswell and Ryzen.


Haswell had 5-10% faster IPC than Ivy Bridge overall, but was ~30% faster per-GHz in Dolphin.

Ryzen has 0-1% faster IPC than Broadwell-E overall, but is ~30% slower per-GHz in Dolphin.



These sound more like BIOS and OS-side issues to me, especially in light of the following:


Quick, somebody try the Dolphin benchmark with Ryzen on Windows 7!

(Linux kernel 4.9.10 might also work)

Anybody want me to test any games out? What games are most demanding for Dolphin?

I did Metroid Prime Trilogy. There was some stuttering in some places (like opening doors) but not much. Mostly ran smooth at 60fps with my cpu overclocked to 3.7 GHz.

I was going to try Skyward Sword but I don't have a sensor bar although I do somehow have a Wiimote lol.

Quote:What games are most demanding for Dolphin?

The Last Story with EFB to Ram
Especially this scene
Or when you fight with overlords (big monsters like dragon queen, black and white dragon...) . The FPS will drop dramatically but as long as you use low IR like 1x or 2x (internal resolution) , you can probably make it run full speed again
Higher IR = Higher CPU requirement + Higher GPU requirement
I think you should start with 3xIR at least

For Example, Metroid Trilogy is also demanding game but you can make it run at 400FPS if you use lowest IR
Metroid Prime on Intel HD 630

(03-06-2017, 01:18 AM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]The Last Story with EFB to Ram
Especially this scene

Inside the castle: (Show Spoiler)

Or when you fight with overlords (big monsters like dragon queen, black and white dragon...) . The FPS will drop dramatically but as long as you use low IR like 1x or 2x (internal resolution) , you can probably make it run full speed again
Higher IR = Higher CPU requirement + Higher GPU requirement
I think you should start with 3xIR at least

I am about to go to work , but I'll do it when I get home tonight. How far in the game is that scene?

Also, my RAM is running at 1067 MHz right now despite being 2400 MHz sticks. I don't believe ASUS supports my RAM yet (or will? I don't know). It is EVGA which I guess isn't very popular. I'm actually considering bringing the ASUS board back and switching it for a Gigabyte next week. It is really upsetting me that my RAM is running so low.

Quote:How far in the game is that scene?

You have to beat the first boss then the second boss . You can run away if you don't want to fight the 2nd boss , it's quite nasty (lv.90 monster right off the bat )
then go to the city and receive permission to enter that castle
It will take 1 hour or so