(05-26-2017, 05:18 AM)GreenT Wrote: [ -> ]For "gaming and emulation." If you're just talking about Dolphin, my advice above stands. Look for a computer with a Skylake or Kaby Lake Pentium or i5, and a GTX 1050 video card. (Either included or to be installed in an open slot.)
This configuration should work for a lot of modern non-Dolphin games too, but frankly the goal of running "every game" at 1080p and max fps is not realistic. For games that can run at arbitrary frame rates (i.e., the speed of gameplay is not tied to the FPS), it doesn't matter whether you get 75, 135 or 300 FPS. There's also a big difference between game speeds depending on the complexity of the game, the efficiency of the programming or game engine, and the graphical settings. (For example, a game might perform well with low or medium settings, but lag on high settings with all the bells and whistles enabled.)
I believe a computer that can run *every* game well on high settings (including those that are massively complex or poorly programmed) is beyond your stated budget.
Is this good enough?
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It's certainly good enough for Dolphin -- should perform similarly to the one I just built for myself using an i5 and GTX 1060. Which means you should be able to play most Dolphin games at 4K.
I'm not enough of a PC gamer to say how well it will work for other games. The GTX 1060 is a really good card, but if it were all anybody would ever need, the GTX 1070 and 1080 GPUs would not exist. Also, I know from these forums that the dual-core Pentium CPUs are great for Dolphin, but I don't know if they're similarly great for all other games as well.
Don't misunderstand me. I think that would be a good gaming system. But I doubt it's capable of running all current games with high settings on high-resolution displays. Maybe somebody with more hard-core gaming experience could give you a better answer to that particular question.
You will limit the maximum frame rate of the GTX 1060 with the Pentium G4560 (in some native PC games), but unless you are using a high refresh rate monitor you should not really notice too much. Will you Max out the settings and get 60FPS in all new AAA titles... No. Will you be able to find some nice settings with various compromises between performance and visuals.... Depends on you.
Basically everything in computer gaming is a trade off between performance visuals and price. The lower the price you have to spend in total the more you will have to trade performance or visuals for the other. 1080p is already a reasonable compromise for your budget, but you will also probably have to settle for medium and high settings to maintain 60FPS. Higher refresh gaming requires higher and higher CPU power and that is where the G4560 will show it's price limitations (but so would an i3). I would also not recommend to much multi tasking while gaming on a dual core with hyper-threading.
(05-30-2017, 10:49 AM)TKSilver Wrote: [ -> ]You will limit the maximum frame rate of the GTX 1060 with the Pentium G4560 (in some native PC games), but unless you are using a high refresh rate monitor you should not really notice too much. Will you Max out the settings and get 60FPS in all new AAA titles... No. Will you be able to find some nice settings with various compromises between performance and visuals.... Depends on you.
Basically everything in computer gaming is a trade off between performance visuals and price. The lower the price you have to spend in total the more you will have to trade performance or visuals for the other. 1080p is already a reasonable compromise for your budget, but you will also probably have to settle for medium and high settings to maintain 60FPS. Higher refresh gaming requires higher and higher CPU power and that is where the G4560 will show it's price limitations (but so would an i3). I would also not recommend to much multi tasking while gaming on a dual core with hyper-threading.
So is it better to build a gaming pc? I dont know how to donit but ill teach myself somehow xD.
Is it cheaper to build yourself and where is the best place i can buy the parts?
It is significantly cheaper to build a PC. You lose portability though if that's important to you.
That $1000 USD laptop you were looking at is a solid mid to high end system. Spending $1000 USD on a custom build will get you... Basically top end in most aspects.
Googling "How to build a PC" will get you tons of resources on every aspect of it, it's not really hard now a days. You only need a screwdriver. PCPartpicker.com is a solid build planning site.
(05-30-2017, 11:38 AM)Helios Wrote: [ -> ]It is significantly cheaper to build a PC. You lose portability though if that's important to you.
That $1000 USD laptop you were looking at is a solid mid to high end system. Spending $1000 USD on a custom build will get you... Basically top end in most aspects.
Googling "How to build a PC" will get you tons of resources on every aspect of it, it's not really hard now a days. You only need a screwdriver. PCPartpicker.com is a solid build planning site.
Ok thank you
(05-30-2017, 11:38 AM)Helios Wrote: [ -> ]It is significantly cheaper to build a PC. You lose portability though if that's important to you.
That $1000 USD laptop you were looking at is a solid mid to high end system. Spending $1000 USD on a custom build will get you... Basically top end in most aspects.
Googling "How to build a PC" will get you tons of resources on every aspect of it, it's not really hard now a days. You only need a screwdriver. PCPartpicker.com is a solid build planning site.
Which is better, an intel pentium or an intel i5?
And which graphics card is good for its price?
So the basics of building a system is to first have a clear picture of what you plan to do with the system. This can be general (ie I want to game and use emulators) or specific (I really want to play Mass Effect Andromeda at X settings and Play X game on Dolphin). The more specific you are the easier it is to find out what is exactly needed to get what you want. The next step is to temper your expectations with the reality of your budget. (So you want to play Witcher 3 at the highest settings, 4k, with hair works at 200 FPS --- and you have $200.... not going to happen) This is the step where you figure out which parts will get you as close to your goal as your budget will allow. The last step is to check with people who have more experience then yourself. Asking for advice is never a bad idea and there are many tech forums that can help make sure that all your parts are compatible.
As far as which is better an i5 or a Pentium.... well the i5 will have better overall performance over the Pentium in most cases, but it generally has a 3x or 4x price difference. So it depends on what you need. An i5 will generally be more then enough for most gamers and most emulators currently in a playable state. (Who knows what RPCS3 will eventually need).
For emulation single core performance is still king and faster speed and newer processors will generally be what you need. GPU performance and extra cores might help performance or just allow for more enhancements to be turned on. For native PC gaming high single core performance used to be the most important thing, but newer games are getting better at utilizing more cores on a CPU and some games require a quad core to even run. But for native PC games the kind still over all is the GPU performance.
(05-30-2017, 12:43 PM)TKSilver Wrote: [ -> ]So the basics of building a system is to first have a clear picture of what you plan to do with the system. This can be general (ie I want to game and use emulators) or specific (I really want to play Mass Effect Andromeda at X settings and Play X game on Dolphin). The more specific you are the easier it is to find out what is exactly needed to get what you want. The next step is to temper your expectations with the reality of your budget. (So you want to play Witcher 3 at the highest settings, 4k, with hair works at 200 FPS --- and you have $200.... not going to happen) This is the step where you figure out which parts will get you as close to your goal as your budget will allow. The last step is to check with people who have more experience then yourself. Asking for advice is never a bad idea and there are many tech forums that can help make sure that all your parts are compatible.
As far as which is better an i5 or a Pentium.... well the i5 will have better overall performance over the Pentium in most cases, but it generally has a 3x or 4x price difference. So it depends on what you need. An i5 will generally be more then enough for most gamers and most emulators currently in a playable state. (Who knows what RPCS3 will eventually need).
For emulation single core performance is still king and faster speed and newer processors will generally be what you need. GPU performance and extra cores might help performance or just allow for more enhancements to be turned on. For native PC gaming high single core performance used to be the most important thing, but newer games are getting better at utilizing more cores on a CPU and some games require a quad core to even run. But for native PC games the kind still over all is the GPU performance.
I am only going to play games on dolphin. I would like to use the pc for other stuff aswell, like browsing and ect
(05-30-2017, 01:02 PM)Mahdhi1235 Wrote: [ -> ]I am only going to play games on dolphin. I would like to use the pc for other stuff aswell, like browsing and ect
I misunderstood you before. I thought you wanted to use this system for Dolphin games AND non-Dolphin PC games. If just Dolphin games, the PC you linked to before with the Pentium and GTX 1060 will play all Dolphin games at 1080p and most Dolphin games at 4K. It will work fine for browsing too.