(07-07-2016, 01:41 PM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: [ -> ]About the GPU, you can easily find out by setting the internal resolution to 1x and seeing how your performance compares - if it's barely any better than 3x internal resolution, then it's not your GPU that's at fault, while conversely if it is quite a bit faster then yes your GPU would be the cause.
With regards to the CPU, it actually seems like Dolphin 5.0 loves a large L2 cache so much that any Core 2 CPU may actually have faster per-GHz performance than even Ivy Bridge.
Therefore, if OP wanted to, assuming that his motherboard is compatible, he could buy a used Core 2 Duo E8600 for all of like $15 USD from Ebay or similar and then overclock that.
While it definitely won't be as fast as something like an overclocked Pentium G3258, it's also much much cheaper. Obviously you'd be trading quad core for dual, so OP would have to judge whether their use-cases outside of Dolphin would be better served by a faster dual core or a slower quad core.
with internal resolution 1x, is a little bit better, but like 1 2 fps of difference.
is my cpu i guess...
As already said above by several different people.
robertus, switching to a 8 years old CPU wouldn't be an upgrade. If you want a cheap CPU that will really work great for Dolphin, go with a G3258. It isn't that much more expensive when compared to upgrading to an i3 or i5.
not to mention that the benchmark results don't reflect real-world performance and are probably flawed. There's no way outdated architectures are faster than Ivy Bridge.
tl;dr: Are you able to spend $100 USD or so? Look into a G3258 and overclock it. Can't spend more than $15 USD? Look into an E8600 and overclock it.
Either way, I still say stick with the same GPU or at least upgrade your CPU
first and then do that same 1x vs 3x IR test again.
(07-08-2016, 06:43 AM)leolam Wrote: [ -> ]robertus, switching to a 8 years old CPU wouldn't be an upgrade. If you want a cheap CPU that will really work great for Dolphin, go with a G3258. It isn't that much more expensive when compared to upgrading to an i3 or i5.
1. Dolphin doesn't really use multiple cores, so even if a higher-clocked dual core is barely an upgrade
it'd still be an upgrade. The higher-clocked Wolfdales regularly overclock to around 4GHz, and Dolphin scales nearly perfectly with clockrate, so that'd be a 25% increase.
2. Of course a G3258 would be better - I have one myself! But a G3258 was already recommended, so I was merely laying out a cheap alternative that would at least help
some if he's not able to spend $100+ USD on a CPU, mobo, and RAM (Core 2 was DDR2 remember).
3. Even if it's the slowest architecture CPU in the world, an E8600 would still be the fastest CPU he could get for his current CPU socket (assuming his mobo is compatible). Again, if they were priced at 50 USD it'd be a different story, but it's only
15 bucks, so I felt it was worth a mention.
My mobo P5W DH Deluxe allow only this socket i see ( Socket LGA775 )
https://www.asus.com/it/Motherboards/P5W_DH_Deluxe/
so i guess that i need to buy another mobo, cpu and ram, and i don't know if needed also a psu, ( i have at the moment Cooler Master RealPower M 620W )
This CPU G3258 have a different socket, so isn't possible use my mobo. anyway i see that this cpu is old anyway.
If i need to change ( and i guess that there isn't another way ), or i buy a mobo that have the socket of G3258 and keep my current GPU ?
Or get a mobo with an i7 and overclock , but i don't know which model.
Anyway i want to around 800-1000$ to have a pc for encoding video and play without problem and slowdown in dolphin and other emu. ( of course, if i can save my money, is better ) but i don't know which config ( cpu ram mobo psu gpu , need a good water cooling? a good case? ( i have lian li pcv-1000 )
and i don't know if a good i7 around 400$ should be great at fullhd and over like 2k or 4k. ( can be with overclock, have a clock of 4.6ghz that G3258 can have with overclock )
In my opinion, it would be a good idea to upgrade both.
If you also want to encode video and play PC games, I would suggest an i5 (at least) or even an i7. I wouldn't suggest anything older than Haswell.
For the GPU, a GTX 750 Ti will be more than enough for Dolphin (I don't play PC games so not sure for the rest).
(07-10-2016, 06:00 AM)leolam Wrote: [ -> ]In my opinion, it would be a good idea to upgrade both.
If you also want to encode video and play PC games, I would suggest an i5 (at least) or even an i7. I wouldn't suggest anything older than Haswell.
For the GPU, a GTX 750 Ti will be more than enough for Dolphin (I don't play PC games so not sure for the rest).
i see now an i5 or i7 maybe K series to overclock at 4.5ghz, because i think that a new cpu, but with slow clock, maybe can have trouble with dolphin ? ( because is dual-core based? )
and here is also important ( for overclock ) choose a good mobo that can be push the cpu ( k series ) at a good higher clock.
A Pentium G3258 or Core i3 would be ideal if you just want an HTPC / emulator machine, i3 nicer for HTPCs. Both will handle Dolphin A-OK. Overclock the G3258 if you get that.
i5 if you want to do some other PC gaming. Will also handle Dolphin fine.
i7 if you want to do high end PC gaming at the best framerates possible. Modern games are starting to use the extra threads. Obviously if you go this route, get a good GPU.
(07-10-2016, 06:00 AM)leolam Wrote: [ -> ]For the GPU, a GTX 750 Ti will be more than enough for Dolphin (I don't play PC games so not sure for the rest).
Since the GPU is a separate item completely and he already owns a Radeon 5670, he might as well get the new CPU first and then see if he really truly needs a better GPU; by then more GPU options may be available (like the Rx 470/460) and/or lower prices may be present on older parts as well (like the aforementioned 750 Ti).
It's 5 years old. It's slow. It's considered legacy. It won't get any more driver updates, and it will never support DX12 or Vulkan.
Btw, I didn't say "buy a GPU immediately", I just said it would probably be a good idea for him to.
(07-10-2016, 08:24 AM)Helios Wrote: [ -> ]A Pentium G3258 or Core i3 would be ideal if you just want an HTPC / emulator machine, i3 nicer for HTPCs. Both will handle Dolphin A-OK. Overclock the G3258 if you get that.
i5 if you want to do some other PC gaming. Will also handle Dolphin fine.
i7 if you want to do high end PC gaming at the best framerates possible. Modern games are starting to use the extra threads. Obviously if you go this route, get a good GPU.
i have an i3-3110M @2,40GHz with nvidia GeForce 710M ( laptop ) but anyway is more slow than my Q6600 @3.2GHz pc desktop with Radeon 5670.