(05-28-2016, 05:49 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: [ -> ]pay Dolphin's owner, The Dolphin Foundation, enough money to make them not complain
That wouldn't be an acceptable solution. If you've violated the GPL, you've violated the GPL, no matter what you pay. The Dolphin foundation is not able to re-license the code so Cemu can use it while being proprietary, because the copyright of Dolphin is distributed among lots of various people. Besides, I doubt that anyone who's in the Dolphin foundation would want to let Cemu use Dolphin's code like that.
(05-28-2016, 05:49 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: [ -> ]It's not commercial, but that makes no difference to anything as far as the GPL is concerned - Red Hat Linux is open-source and managed under the GPL, but it's a commercial product. The issue is that GPL code requires that if you use it, you have to link to the source code so that anyone else can use it, too. As Cemu is closed-source, if it's reusing any of Dolphin's code, it's in violation of the GPL, so if there's any proof, Cemu is legally required to either stop existing, pay Dolphin's owner, The Dolphin Foundation, enough money to make them not complain, or open-source all of their code so far. They could go back to being closed-source once they reimplemented everything so it didn't use Dolphin's code, but they'd still have to have their older code out there, and that would allow anyone to see what, if any, dirty tricks they've been up to, and would also potentially allow Decaf, the other WiiU emulator, to make faster progress.
I hope you don't use Cemu if not...
Exzap is a genius, and that's it.
(05-28-2016, 05:59 AM)JosJuice Wrote: [ -> ]That wouldn't be an acceptable solution. If you've violated the GPL, you've violated the GPL, no matter what you pay. The Dolphin foundation is not able to re-license the code so Cemu can use it while being proprietary, because the copyright of Dolphin is distributed among lots of various people. Besides, I doubt that anyone who's in the Dolphin foundation would want to let Cemu use Dolphin's code like that.
I was simplifying the ownership thing as the post was already getting pretty long. Yes, if it was resolved financially, everyone who's ever contributed to Dolphin would potentially need negotiating with. However, if it turned out that Cemu were in violation of the GPL, but offered to pay everyone who's ever contributed to Dolphin $1b, (or a similarly huge amount of money), that would probably be enough to allow it to be used as a second, separate licence just for them, much like how Unity uses a version of Mono which they licenced from Xamarin, even though it's normally under the GPL.
Yeah, no one ever got back to me with the "proof". I want assume I wasn't lied to, but it's best to assume nothing unless someone else wants to dig for the proof.
looks like someone is angry with cemu progress
(05-28-2016, 08:44 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: [ -> ]However, if it turned out that Cemu were in violation of the GPL, but offered to pay everyone who's ever contributed to Dolphin $1b, (or a similarly huge amount of money), that would probably be enough to allow it to be used as a second, separate licence just for them, much like how Unity uses a version of Mono which they licenced from Xamarin, even though it's normally under the GPL.
Yes, but consider that some the developers won't be able to relicense their code. Even assuming that nobody disagrees to relicensing in exchange for enough money, there are several developers who seem to be uncontactable, and at least two that are dead.
Given that my example price was a billion USD, this is already far enough into the hypothetical that we can assume they'd be paying PIs to track down the uncontactable, and would get in touch with whoever inherited the estate of the deceased, as they're the current copyright holders.
Actually the Dolphin Foundation has control of the project now, so going through each and every developer shouldn't be necessary any longer.
(05-29-2016, 11:44 AM)JMC47 Wrote: [ -> ]Actually the Dolphin Foundation has control of the project now, so going through each and every developer shouldn't be necessary any longer.
No. All the developers haven't re-assigned their copyrights to the Dolphin Foundation and haven't released their changes under a more permissive licence. Just like everyone else, the Dolphin Foundation can only modify and distribute Dolphin under the terms of the GPL.