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(05-17-2014, 10:56 PM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]It does as I've said above. A higher resolution, in this case 4k will have YouTube encode your video to a higher bitrate one.

I meant the input video quality. It doesn't matter if someone uploads a video at 1080p if the bitrate is a measly 1Mbps.

(05-17-2014, 10:56 PM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]Who cares? That's besides the point here. I had not played this game at all prior to this.

I care. :|

1. I'm still using a 4:3 Trinitron CRT because OLED monitors are not yet practical
2. You stretched out a 4:3 video to 16:9 which ruined fullscreen for my display
3. If you knew that you were planning on stretching the 4:3 video to 16:9 anyway then I would think that looking for an actual native widescreen option would be a bit of priority (or a widescreen hack for games that lack such a function) so that you wouldn't have to stretch at all
4. The fact that you're not the first, but the fourth person I've come across that has done the exact same thing; it feels like a pandemic

I always got annoyed with how TimeSplitters Future Perfect always asks every time right when you start the game if you want to enable widescreen, but perhaps they had the right idea...
Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote:Also congrats, I believe you are the forth person I've come across on the internet to not realize that F-Zero GX has a built-in widescreen setting

We have a wiki problem just for that - https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=F-Zero_GX#16:9

Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote:1. I'm still using a 4:3 Trinitron CRT because OLED monitors are not yet practical

*MaJoR looks at his Trinitron CRT
*MaJoR looks at his LCD beside it

Sorry, LCD wins. Of course, the LCD I picked was highly praised in reviews, so it's a really good LCD.


...Besides, that behemoth CRT is warping my desk >_<
(05-17-2014, 11:22 PM)MaJoR Wrote: [ -> ]We have a wiki problem just for that - https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=F-Zero_GX#16:9
The guy stretched the 4:3 video to 16:9 anyway, so if he did the exact same video-stretching post-process but with the widescreen option enabled then it would have came out fine.

...that's assuming he didn't record it directly from dolphin like that.

(05-17-2014, 11:22 PM)MaJoR Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry, LCD wins. Of course, the LCD I picked was highly praised in reviews, so it's a really good LCD.
Unfortunately for me an LCD by definition cannot display a pixel of true black directly next to a full-on white pixel. Also there's always the tablet users out there where 16:10 and 4:3 ratios are by far the most common, both of which are narrower than 16:9 and would be better served by leaving 4:3 content to their native ratio.

Also I just had another thought, if you wanted to maximize YouTube's rendering resolution then you really should keep it to 4:3 because their absolute maximum video render resolution is 4096x3072, aka "4:3 4k".
(05-17-2014, 11:04 PM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: [ -> ]3. If you knew that you were planning on stretching the 4:3 video to 16:9 anyway then I would think that looking for an actual native widescreen option would be a bit of priority (or a widescreen hack for games that lack such a function) so that you wouldn't have to stretch at all
My aspect ratio is (always) set to force 16:9, so it was stretched there. I didn't stretch the video.
I had to switch to D3D and just realized widescreen hack was unchecked. I thought it didn't work so I didn't bother.
It's not like I was going to play it.

Quote:4. The fact that you're not the first, but the fourth person I've come across that has done the exact same thing; it feels like a pandemic
What's so surprising about this? Not every game has an in-game option for it and I had no idea F-Zero had the option built-in.
You can't expect everyone to have all the time in the world to set everything up right.

Quote:I always got annoyed with how TimeSplitters Future Perfect always asks every time right when you start the game if you want to enable widescreen, but perhaps they had the right idea...
No, that's just plain annoying.

Quote:Also I just had another thought, if you wanted to maximize YouTube's rendering resolution then you really should keep it to 4:3 because their absolute maximum video render resolution is 4096x3072, aka "4:3 4k".
There was no intention of maximizing it on YouTube. All I was going for was the 4K option to see how it would handle a fast-paced game like F-Zero.

Quote:And random thought, if it's the first time he's ever even played the game then where did he even get the game from...?
This is against the rules FYI.
Rules Wrote:Piracy post reporting and forum etiquette: We're not investigating/searching for reasons to ban. Asking too many questions, like, "where did you get the game", is none of your business. Not knowing how to dump a game is not an admission of guilt. If you mention downloading, you get banned. If you don't mention it, nothing happens, we then all assume you own the game. Do not harass forum users or report them unless they admit to downloading illegal content.

Again, why is this so surprising? I own many games I have not even touched yet.
A modern example I can give you is Steam. Plenty of people own games they haven't even played yet.
(05-17-2014, 11:42 PM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]What's so surprising about this? Not every game has an in-game option for it and I had no idea F-Zero had the option built-in.
You can't expect everyone to have all the time in the world to set everything up right.
It's not like there's a ton of things in the Options menu, there's literally I think only 2 or 3 things.

(05-17-2014, 11:42 PM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]This is against the rules FYI.
d'oh.

I'll just say one thing, owning a physical copy =/= owning a digital library.
(05-17-2014, 11:46 PM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: [ -> ]It's not like there's a ton of things in the Options menu, there's literally I think only 2 or 3 things.
Yes there isn't, but why is it so hard for you understand that because most games don't have the option that people won't be bothered to look for it in the options?

Quote:I'll just say one thing, owning a physical copy =/= owning a digital library.
That's subjective. Some people like to own their games physically to build towers with the boxes or fill their cabinets while others prefer to own their games digitally to keep things clean and have their games accessible from everywhere without having to drag cds or boxes with them.
(05-17-2014, 11:59 PM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]Yes there isn't, but why is it so hard for you grasp that because most games don't have the option that people won't be bothered to look in the options for it?
Because missing it for even one game can make you hate yourself for discovering it years after you've completed the game?

(05-17-2014, 11:59 PM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]That's subjective. Some people like to own their games physically and build towers with the boxes while others prefer to own their games digitally which keeps things clean and they have their games accessible from everywhere without having to drag cds or boxes with them.
I meant that digital and physical games are treated and perceived differently. I'm one of those crazy people that even sold some of my N64 cartridges and put the funds toward buying the virtual console version of the same game, and yet I somehow still feel better about those games that I own physically even if I never play them directly from their original media - in fact I prefer to play them purely digitally.

Maybe I'm just weird?
(05-17-2014, 10:56 PM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-17-2014, 08:43 PM)CryZENx Wrote: [ -> ]loool look what i found... 480p looks better than upscaled 4k res wtf...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCf59fGzOCQ
You must be blind. The video I uploaded looks a lot better than that, obviously.



ok better was a wrong word i have used Big Grin, i mean its less blocky then a up 4k res video at 360p settings

(05-17-2014, 10:56 PM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-17-2014, 08:43 PM)CryZENx Wrote: [ -> ]loool look what i found... 480p looks better than upscaled 4k res wtf...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCf59fGzOCQ
You must be blind. The video I uploaded looks a lot better than that, obviously.

(05-17-2014, 08:50 PM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats, you have now learned that resolution does not equal video quality. Wink
It does as I've said above. A higher resolution, in this case 4k will have YouTube encode your video to a higher bitrate one.

Quote:Also congrats, I believe you are the forth person I've come across on the internet to not realize that F-Zero GX has a built-in widescreen setting; you can find it in "Options" from the main menu.
Who cares? That's besides the point here. I had not played this game at all prior to this.

ok better was a wrong word i have used Big Grin, i mean its less blocky then a up 4k res video at 360p settings
(05-18-2014, 12:05 AM)Nintendo Maniac 64 Wrote: [ -> ]Because missing it for even one game can make you hate yourself for discovering it years after you've completed the game?
Actually playing a game and doing a test recording are different things.

Quote:I meant that digital and physical games are treated and perceived differently. I'm one of those crazy people that even sold some of my N64 cartridges and put the funds toward buying the virtual console version of the same game, and yet I somehow still feel better about those games that I own physically even if I never play them directly from their original media - in fact I prefer to play them purely digitally.

Maybe I'm just weird?
Well that's... certainly the first I read about this. Why's that though? Is that because you prefer to keep your original media sealed/clean?

(05-19-2014, 07:32 AM)CryZENx Wrote: [ -> ]ok better was a wrong word i have used Big Grin, i mean its less blocky then a up 4k res video at 360p settings
Well it's meant to be viewed at 4K. YouTube compression is horrible. We all know that.

Just incase if you're using the HTML5 player, right-click the video and click on Stats for Nerds and make sure your resolution is at 4K.
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YouTube is a bit trippy with the on-the-fly changing of the quality.
(05-21-2014, 10:41 PM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]Well that's... certainly the first I read about this. Why's that though? Is that because you prefer to keep your original media sealed/clean?
Considering that the N64 used cartridges, it's a bit difficult to play them without ever touching the cartridges. :p I've had an N64 since 1999 FYI.

But no, keeping them sealed isn't it. As for keeping them clean, I never have problems with dirtiness, even with nearly 20 year old PC CDs.

Like I said, I don't really know myself why it psychologically feels better. The closest thing I can think of is that I've become extremely sensitive to vender and hardware lock-in - I want to actually own a copy of the game, not just own a license to play the game.
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