A) The wind waker benchmark will make things look faster than they are, as it's a really light game, and the benchmark build is 3.0, which is faster than current builds, but much less accurate, so has many more bugs.
B) If you don't do anything really stupid, overclocking won't cause any damage to your system that you'll ever notice. It might drop your CPU lifetime from 20 years to 15, but there's no way a current computer will be particularly useful in 15 years. There are plenty of guides explaining how to do it safely, and it's the only way to run the most demanding games.
C) In many benchmarks, the i5's HD 4600 graphics are within 1FPS of the A10-5800K's 7660D. If you were saying the 5800K might be sufficient, then it's likely the i5's will be too, and you'll also be able to get dolphin working well. Either of these integrated GPUs will be just about enough for games, as they're similar to midrange graphics cards, and should be able to tide you over if you try and save up some money to get something better later. That's probably the best option for your budget.
You'll only wreck your computer if you overclock badly. You just have to ask, over at Overclock.net. There was another forum you could go to, but I asked them a question one time, and almost all of them were yelling at me to look at guides to figure out exactly what I need to buy, so I'd never recommend them.
Do not buy AMD processors, you're paying more dollars per IPS. The motherboards are cheap because there is no generalized quality control, so most AMD motherboards are cost-downed pieces of junk, unless you get into the $100+ zone (USD, CAD is $140+). Unless you don't want to keep your computer for very long, DO NOT BUY CHEAP AMD PARTS!
Also, do not go for cheaper PSUs. I know that everyone is recommending that one 80+ white PSU by EVGA (not really a BAD PSU, but not a GOOD one, either), but you should never cheap out on the PSU. I'd recommend any PSU given outstanding (overall 8/10 or higher) marks by professional PSU reviewers like Jonnyguru or Kitguru('s power supply guys).
Just wait for Pentium Anniversary. Faster than that A10, overclockable, and cheap like a Pentium.
sorry to be rude but after so many post if you still insist on amd then you can forget about dolphin or be satisfied with 60% speed. I am saying it again amd IPC is super low compared to intel
(04-30-2014, 02:04 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: [ -> ]A) The wind waker benchmark will make things look faster than they are, as it's a really light game, and the benchmark build is 3.0, which is faster than current builds, but much less accurate, so has many more bugs.
B) If you don't do anything really stupid, overclocking won't cause any damage to your system that you'll ever notice. It might drop your CPU lifetime from 20 years to 15, but there's no way a current computer will be particularly useful in 15 years. There are plenty of guides explaining how to do it safely, and it's the only way to run the most demanding games.
C) In many benchmarks, the i5's HD 4600 graphics are within 1FPS of the A10-5800K's 7660D. If you were saying the 5800K might be sufficient, then it's likely the i5's will be too, and you'll also be able to get dolphin working well. Either of these integrated GPUs will be just about enough for games, as they're similar to midrange graphics cards, and should be able to tide you over if you try and save up some money to get something better later. That's probably the best option for your budget.
#1. I'm not going to "save up" later. This computer is for gaming, that's retarded to buy it and then buy the graphics card later.
#2. The cheapest i5 I can find is literally like $80 more than the A10-5800K, so you want me to pay $80 more for only 1FPS more? Also the motherboards are double the price. I already said this.
I'm leaning towards AMD BECAUSE THE MOTHERBOARDS ARE CHEAPER. I'm on a very tight budget, I am not buying half a computer and then saving up for the rest.
It's either all now or nothing. I won it in a competition.
#3. I cannot wait for Pentium or whatever, I have to send the request in at a certain time.
I am trying to explain to the best that I can here... The Intel CPUs are already way more expensive than AMD CPUs, and the motherboards are literally double the price, so that means I have to remove the graphics card in order to be below $600, and then that's not much of a gaming computer at all!
Well, if you want to commit data suicide, it's fine by me. Buy a cheap AMD motherboard, and watch as your work is crushed under the nonexistant quality standards, and you're unable to play any CPU-heavy games faster than a crawl. You also will not be able to play any non-light games in Dolphin.
Also, my GPU can play Skyrim further than maxed out. The 4600 GPU on the i5s is nearly as powerful as my GPU. You don't have to think of it as a sacrifice, when you're replacing it with something at least almost as good for potentially less money.
(04-30-2014, 06:16 AM)kinkinkijkin Wrote: [ -> ]Well, if you want to commit data suicide, it's fine by me. Buy a cheap AMD motherboard, and watch as your work is crushed under the nonexistant quality standards, and you're unable to play any CPU-heavy games faster than a crawl. You also will not be able to play any non-light games in Dolphin.
Also, my GPU can play Skyrim further than maxed out. The 4600 GPU on the i5s is nearly as powerful as my GPU. You don't have to think of it as a sacrifice, when you're replacing it with something at least almost as good for potentially less money.
No intergrated GPU will ever be as good as a dedicated GPU.
There really is no downside to putting off getting a GPU later. This way, you can get the best CPU and motherboard combo (because in computing, you really do get what you pay for), and an ok integrated GPU for now until you get some extra cash to get a better card in the future
edit: while it's not as good as a dedicated GPU, it will allow you to play games at medium settings until you get a better card
(04-30-2014, 06:27 AM)KHg8m3r Wrote: [ -> ]There really is no downside to putting off getting a GPU later. This way, you can get the best CPU and motherboard combo (because in computing, you really do get what you pay for), and an ok integrated GPU for now until you get some extra cash to get a better card in the future
edit: while it's not as good as a dedicated GPU, it will allow you to play games at medium settings until you get a better card
But as I said earlier, it's now or nothing. I won this computer in a competition. Custom built gaming PC of my choice, value under $600, free.
The Haswell i5 gives you a boost of A LOT more than 1 FPS... (30% faster than Sandy Bridge on Dolphin).
You still not believe in us? Put an eye on the official Dolphin benchmark then.
There's your problem. There's no such thing as a gaming PC for under 600 canadian dollars. You can either get most of a gaming PC, or all of something which won't be good enough for games or emulation, and will catch fire.