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JT! Wrote:Well they work fine on the PC now, but don't on the TV so I'm not sure how you got to that conclusion. I re-read what I typed just to make sure I didn't slip up on anything. The only thing I can add to clear a possible misunderstanding is that when I had the speakers at the TV and plugged into the TV the loud hum was an issue when viewing the PC, over the air channels and the ps3.

If the speakers work fine with one input and not another than the issue clearly lies with the input (or cabling). If the speakers always have problems with any input then the problem is with the speakers. It's that simple.

JT! Wrote:Audio quality is all about the digital to analogue conversion.

No.

Everything from that point on effects audio quality. That includes things like amplification and actual playback on the speakers. DAC (digital to analog converter) is just one of many components in the chain that effect the quality of the end result. You are correct to assume however that entirely digital devices have no impact on the audio quality. At least in terms of SNR (signal to noise ratio, the clarity of the audio). Once it's converted to analog however everything that the signal touches from that point on effects its SNR, including the converter itself.

JT! Wrote:Fiber optic output a device is digital.

Yes.

JT! Wrote:So you send the digital signal to the soundcard so it uses it's DAC and then sends the analogue signal out?

Yes you could do that. Although you originally suggested spdif passthrough, which is not the same thing.

JT! Wrote:Meaning you would be using the pc's soundcard rather than the devices? (More of a hypothetical question as opposed to something I'd actually do).

Depending on the sound card some of them in theory might be able to do that yes.

It would be a pain in the ass to turn your PC on and configure it for this every time you wanted to use your ps3 though. And set your tvs video input to the ps3 since you would have video coming from both the ps3 and pc at the same time. But yes it could work as long as you set your ps3 to output only lpcm. You would lose any surround sound though by doing so.

JT! Wrote:Is there any graphics benchmark thing I can run to decipher if it's a software issue or an issue with the GPU/drivers?

No. That wouldn't work. If for example you ran a benchmark and got poor results that still wouldn't tell you jack shit about whether the drivers or hardware were causing the poor results.

And since the benchmark is a completely different application it wouldn't be applicable to that video player at all. A bug could easily exist in the video player that degrades performance that isn't in the benchmark for example.
I see.

So would you have any suggestions regarding the hum I get over the speakers when plugged into the TV's headphone jack? Or is this just shitty things a cheap TV does and I should just not worry about it and get an amp and nice bookshelf speakers and connect it to the tv by it's optical or coaxial output?

So what would be the next step to take with the choppy playback? All new drivers and flash plugin but still having issues with youtube, hulu and netflix.

Also: 4gb ram, but only 3.19 usable. Googled the crap out of it but found nothing that worked.
Weird....this didn't show up as unread. Or your other thread either.

JT! Wrote:Or is this just shitty things a cheap TV does and I should just not worry about it and get an amp and nice bookshelf speakers and connect it to the tv by it's optical or coaxial output?

^That.

JT! Wrote:So what would be the next step to take with the choppy playback? All new drivers and flash plugin but still having issues with youtube, hulu and netflix.

Try reformatting. What hardware do you have on this thing again?

JT! Wrote:Also: 4gb ram, but only 3.19 usable. Googled the crap out of it but found nothing that worked.

That's completely normal for a 32 bit OS. Do you have a 32 bit OS?
I'd hate to reformat as it's been a problem since I installed windows it the first place, IIRC it never worked right. Certainly it wasn't an issue that suddenly just came up.

Hardware: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/jonathantrillo/saved/3C0B

I downloaded AMD overdrive. When watching 1080p on YT. CPU was at around 40%-70%, however the GPU would alternate from 0% to ~50% then spike to 100%. The graph it plots is just up and down all the way along and not a consistent line like the CPU which seems odd to me.

Nope, 64bit. I read into it, some people said it was normal as the OS uses the .81GB (that doesn't make sense to me). Also some people said it's because integrated graphics will use it, but I'm not sure if my APU would fall under that category?
I hate to but I'm at a loss. Bump.
I'm sorry but what you're describing makes no sense to me if the drivers are working correctly.

-try different browsers
-try html5 instead of flash
-try updating flash
-try update drivers
-try turning hardware acceleration on/off (right click the video and go to settings)
-check the cpu for throttling
-check the gpu for throttling
-check that the memory is running in dual channel mode and at the correct speed
-try overclocking
-if all else fails reformat OS

JT! Wrote:I read into it, some people said it was normal as the OS uses the .81GB (that doesn't make sense to me). Also some people said it's because integrated graphics will use it, but I'm not sure if my APU would fall under that category?

It's the IGP reserving video ram. The OS stops seeing it as addressable ram.
(04-12-2014, 02:40 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sorry but what you're describing makes no sense to me if the drivers are working correctly.

-try different browsers
-try html5 instead of flash
-try updating flash
-try update drivers
-try turning hardware acceleration on/off (right click the video and go to settings)
-check the cpu for throttling
-check the gpu for throttling
-check that the memory is running in dual channel mode and at the correct speed
-try overclocking
-if all else fails reformat OS

JT! Wrote:I read into it, some people said it was normal as the OS uses the .81GB (that doesn't make sense to me). Also some people said it's because integrated graphics will use it, but I'm not sure if my APU would fall under that category?

It's the IGP reserving video ram. The OS stops seeing it as addressable ram.

I have no tried a different browser! I Will try this first, and should have been the first thing I tried.

I should try turning hardware acceleration off? Sure I'll give it a shot.
There seems to be no CPU or GPU throttling.
I did not have the ram in the right slots for duel channel mode until a few weeks ago, this didn't help. It is running at the correct speeds.

I could try overclocking but I've yet to find a program that'll actually show me the cpu temp, I've tried all the obvious ones and only one actually gave me a reading which seemd to be 10 degrees off from what the bios said the temp is.
Blurays play fine, so I don't think it's a cpu/gpu issue, but a software issue, so I'll spend my time working looking into that, I really don't what to reformat.

I have the same issue on IE.
Overclocking to 44ghz may have helped. I'll test more when I next get chance.
JT! Wrote:I could try overclocking but I've yet to find a program that'll actually show me the cpu temp, I've tried all the obvious ones and only one actually gave me a reading which seemd to be 10 degrees off from what the bios said the temp is.

1. How do you know the bios temp is accurate?
2. Why would the temps after booting an OS be the same as a zero activity state?
3. Are you sure you're comparing data from the same sensors? AMD has tcase and tjunction if I recall.

Please try all of my advise. Not just some of it.

JT! Wrote:Overclocking to 44ghz may have helped.

Well yeah at 44GHz I would certainly expect it to run well.....
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