70 degree celsius full load after 30 mins testing is completely normal for a laptop . I say it's good temp .
@kinkinkijkin Seriously , Have you ever owned a gaming laptop before ?
70C is hot temp for desktop CPU but the op is using a mobile CPU that can withstand 85C fine without throttling
Quote:apple at least puts together a decent product.
Not really , it will overheat with Dolphin since it's not a gaming laptop but a multi-media one
Try to play Dolphin on an Macbook Pro with dedicated GPU for a long period of time and see what i mean (90 degree celsius warning)
A true gaming laptop equip decent cooling unit , big bunky dual fansink (cooldown both CPU and GPU seperately) . A normal multi-media laptop has only 1 fansink for both CPU and GPU , CPU and GPU is attached to the same heatpipe . I'm not saying an overpriced alienware is good for your pocket but i should say it's a true gaming laptop
70c after using dolphin for a while with slowdown at this point hints at some throttling, possibly preemptive throttling, which would make sense since throttling can easily throw off a ton of heat; before I switched off all of windows' ridiculous throttling settings it put on my CPU, I'd see anywhere from 10-20 degree reductions without dethrottling.
Of course, windows isn't that stupid anymore, and I'm talking about way back in non-updated Win7 r7600 (which I still use currently, since it's what my install CD has, and I don't like the new security "features"), otherwise windows wouldn't think my CPU was near failing, since I mean that it was temperatures around 50 or 60.
And, you know that apple has a lot of different computer products, right? They don't just make "macbook" macbooks. Given, the ones suitable for dolphin aren't marketed for what they'd be best used for, and cost a ton, but they don't make a shoddy product. Hell, they'd even be properly considerable to the average user if they weren't expensive and intentionally fragile.
I disagree . Most mobile users here have at least 80C full load while running Dolphin , no throttle whatsoever
Don't compare a desktop CPU with mobile CPU . They're totally different
Mobile CPU doesn't have any lid cover on it while desktop CPU does . Desktop CPU temp is measured by using thermocouple embedded in the centre of the heat spreader (Tcase) while mobile CPU temp is measured by TJmax
Max Tcase for most Intel CPU should not exceed 72.6C , TJmax for most mobile Intel CPU is 100C->105C
Therefore , Mobile CPU can run stable at higher temp
(01-07-2014, 01:42 AM)kinkinkijkin Wrote: [ -> ]And, you know that apple has a lot of different computer products, right? They don't just make "macbook" macbooks. Given, the ones suitable for dolphin aren't marketed for what they'd be best used for, and cost a ton, but they don't make a shoddy product. Hell, they'd even be properly considerable to the average user if they weren't expensive and intentionally fragile.
After having to spend half an hour today being shown how good the new top-of-the-range Mac Pro is by a friend, I can tell you with some assurance that even the best system Apple make isn't good for Dolphin. This is largely because of Apple's tendency to prioritise multithreaded performance over single threaded performance, so they use 2 not-hugely-highly-clocked Xeons.
(01-07-2014, 08:07 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-07-2014, 01:42 AM)kinkinkijkin Wrote: [ -> ]And, you know that apple has a lot of different computer products, right? They don't just make "macbook" macbooks. Given, the ones suitable for dolphin aren't marketed for what they'd be best used for, and cost a ton, but they don't make a shoddy product. Hell, they'd even be properly considerable to the average user if they weren't expensive and intentionally fragile.
After having to spend half an hour today being shown how good the new top-of-the-range Mac Pro is by a friend, I can tell you with some assurance that even the best system Apple make isn't good for Dolphin. This is largely because of Apple's tendency to prioritise multithreaded performance over single threaded performance, so they use 2 not-hugely-highly-clocked Xeons.
Im guessing your talking about the Older Mac Pro then, since you stated TWO Xeon proccessors. Gonna have to agree with you on that, but weren't those Xeons a bit old compared to the normal Intel CPU's on the market, like Nehalem (Westmere) old? That could explain for the lower performance. The new mac pro that just came out jumps all the to Haswell if I am remembering things properly.
You're right about it having one processor. I saw 12-core, and forgot that you can get 12 core Xeons, so decided it was 2 6 core Xeons. It's also clocked higher than I remembered.
Basically, my post was barely relevant, and a bit wrong. Still, a system with a CPU with an unlocked multiplier would still be better.
Now if i remember correctly , OCed i5 3570k and some other i5/i7 can operate normally under 85 degree celsius . Err , i guess that temp is fine for modern CPU
My E5300 thottles at 80C though
Well when i was playing Dolphin and i seen the 70 on that program that tell the temp, i felt my laptop and it wasnt even THAT hot, not like "OMG IM ON THE SUN!" hot. it was warm tho. normally warm. Like when i do my 3D modeling. Even then, when i do that it gets a bit hotter than 70 but not by much, but loads those meshes extremely fast and those graphics and textures for that 3D program r way better than SADX. I honestly think its a problem with a setting i havent tweaked yet.
3D modeling is handled by the GPU.
Emulating is handled by the CPU.
Again, you have a nice GPU, but not a sufficient CPU for too many games.
(01-08-2014, 05:49 PM)Xipe Toltec Wrote: [ -> ]Well when i was playing Dolphin and i seen the 70 on that program that tell the temp, i felt my laptop and it wasnt even THAT hot, not like "OMG IM ON THE SUN!" hot. it was warm tho. normally warm. Like when i do my 3D modeling. Even then, when i do that it gets a bit hotter than 70 but not by much, but loads those meshes extremely fast and those graphics and textures for that 3D program r way better than SADX. I honestly think its a problem with a setting i havent tweaked yet.
The system that is being emulated (GC/Wii) requires way more CPU horsepower than GPU. CPU's and GPU's are good at different things, and in this case the CPU is doing WAY more work than you would be on normal applications on your PC or even intensive games. Starcraft 2 needs lots of CPU power, but it doesn't really compare to some of the games being emulated on dolphin (Last Story, SMG, and pretty much most games using LLE for DSP). Also, more than a 4 Core CPU is pretty unnecessary for Dolphin since it usually doesn't use more than 3 or 4 threads (higher core intel (comparing i5 to i7) CPU's may have slightly better IPC, so a slight performance boost may occur, but nothing much). Editing meshes requires mostly GPU power up until you fire up the render engine, which may use only CPU, or GPU (or maybe both) depending oin what your using.
However, seeing your hardware (specifically the CPU), Sonic Adventures DX
should run juts fine. AMD Phenom II's are running the game in the 3.2 GHz range according to some the benches on the wiki. I don't think its throttling if its a Ivy Bridge Mobile CPU, ive seen those run stable over 80C (OCN). Make sure all your drivers, etc are up to date (thats always good to do anyways for your computer anyways), try a several different versions of dolphin such as 4.0-603 (its helped in a few cases for me, bugs pop up all the time), and maybe if you want to post some pics of your settings using the snipping tool.