(10-16-2013, 01:22 AM)nakatayuji Wrote: [ -> ] (10-16-2013, 01:19 AM)dh2005 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-16-2013, 01:14 AM)nakatayuji Wrote: [ -> ]Ideally I would get a desktop, but the problem with being a college student is that it's kind of mandatory to have a laptop on the go 
And I see that it's better, but will it run at 100%?
Thanks 
Well, if you already have a laptop, why not keep that for laptop purposes and buy a desktop? Money goes further, my friend...
The plan is to donate my current laptop to my younger sister, as she has less intensive needs for a computer, so I figured it made more sense considering portability is important to me.
Fair play. I applaud the thinking.
(I thought originally that the specs you have above were for your current laptop, rather than the one you were looking to buy... you'd think someone who'd spent a decade at university would've done better with the whole 'reading' thing)
(10-16-2013, 01:22 AM)nakatayuji Wrote: [ -> ]The plan is to donate my current laptop to my younger sister, as she has less intensive needs for a computer, so I figured it made more sense considering portability is important to me.
How about Secret Option Number 3? Like, buying a piece-of-shit netbook for mobile computing (or a low-end tablet, even), thus saving
more of your pennies for a higher-end desktop machine?
Though this assumes that you have a screen for said desktop...
Everyone has their moments like that
I'm just really into competitive super smash bros and it would just be really cool for me to be able to play melee/brawl/pm on the go. My current laptop runs brawl at like 10 fps and I also run other computer intensive software as an engineering student so an upgrade is starting to become more and more necessary as I start to get into the higher levels of my major :X
I don't particularly like being the dude that asks all the questions but I just need to find a laptop that will run these games without a hitch that doesn't completely destroy my bank
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(10-16-2013, 01:25 AM)dh2005 Wrote: [ -> ]How about Secret Option Number 3? Like, buying a piece-of-shit netbook for mobile computing (or a low-end tablet, even), thus saving more of your pennies for a higher-end desktop machine?
Though this assumes that you have a screen for said desktop...
Yeah, the cost of that screen would probably be a bit too much. Not to mention I travel a lot while at school (GF lives 3 hours away when I'm at college) and I do a fair bit of homework while I'm up at her school, so the portability is unfortunately pretty necessary.
(10-16-2013, 01:31 AM)nakatayuji Wrote: [ -> ]Everyone has their moments like that
I'm just really into competitive super smash bros and it would just be really cool for me to be able to play melee/brawl/pm on the go. My current laptop runs brawl at like 10 fps and I also run other computer intensive software as an engineering student so an upgrade is starting to become more and more necessary as I start to get into the higher levels of my major :X
I don't particularly like being the dude that asks all the questions but I just need to find a laptop that will run these games without a hitch that doesn't completely destroy my bank
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(10-16-2013, 01:25 AM)dh2005 Wrote: [ -> ]How about Secret Option Number 3? Like, buying a piece-of-shit netbook for mobile computing (or a low-end tablet, even), thus saving more of your pennies for a higher-end desktop machine?
Though this assumes that you have a screen for said desktop...
Yeah, the cost of that screen would probably be a bit too much. Not to mention I travel a lot while at school (GF lives 3 hours away when I'm at college) and I do a fair bit of homework while I'm up at her school, so the portability is unfortunately pretty necessary.
Yeah. Sounds like it needs to be mobile, then. No disagreement.
Well , you shouldn't buy an Ivy Bridge laptop (i5/i7 3xxx) which is kinda weak for Dolphin atm . Haswell FTW (i5/i7 4xxx)
The most popular Haswell CPU is i7 4700MQ
If you're into Melee in a competitive sense, particularly 1 vs 1; I believe the original those laptops would be fine. I've seen people in the netplay group do (most) stages at 60 fps on overclocked Core2Duos. If you're into doubles, Fountain of Dreams, etc; you start needing (at least laptop wise) second/third gen i5/i7 processors. NVIDIA cards help a lot for speed in Melee because it enables you to use Vertex Streaming Hack which speeds up the game considerably over D3D.
For Instance, I have a 2670 QM (3.0 GHz max turbo boost, gets 2.8GHz in dolphin) and I can run every single stage in Melee 1 vs 1 without slowdown during netplay matches. Without Netplay, I can probably handle all but Fountain of Dreams and perhaps Mute City with 4 player Free for alls.
That's just my thoughts/experience with Melee.
Brawl on the other hand is a bit different. It varies wildly per stage. In Project M, on some stages, you can get a low-end Core2Duo playing it just fine, but then other stages have slightly higher requirements than Melee, but usually nothing that uses more CPU than Fountain of Dreams on the GC predecessor. If you can run that stage full speed with 4 players, you can handle most of Brawl as well. I get 45 - 50 fps playing 4 player on the hardest stages on the 2670 QM processor (Without tuning for speed) in Brawl. I can handle pretty much any stage 1 vs 1.
I don't play Brawl quite as much, so I'm not quite sure exactly what you want to get it perfect. If you don't mind a choppy framerate and need full-speed, frameskip also works wonders in both games (but can desync netplay/online play if that's what you're getting into.) Even an overclocked Core2Duo can handle mostly anything if you're willing to use a healthy frameskip. But, because of how frameskipping works, it isn't a consistent frameskip and can be jarring when it kicks in. Would not recommend it in Melee, but Brawl it really doesn't bother me. You don't have to worry about wavedashing/Lcancelling, so it's a lot more reasonable to use frameskipping.
(10-17-2013, 09:21 AM)JMC47 Wrote: [ -> ]If you're into Melee in a competitive sense, particularly 1 vs 1; I believe the original those laptops would be fine. I've seen people in the netplay group do (most) stages at 60 fps on overclocked Core2Duos. If you're into doubles, Fountain of Dreams, etc; you start needing (at least laptop wise) second/third gen i5/i7 processors. NVIDIA cards help a lot for speed in Melee because it enables you to use Vertex Streaming Hack which speeds up the game considerably over D3D.
For Instance, I have a 2670 QM (3.0 GHz max turbo boost, gets 2.8GHz in dolphin) and I can run every single stage in Melee 1 vs 1 without slowdown during netplay matches. Without Netplay, I can probably handle all but Fountain of Dreams and perhaps Mute City with 4 player Free for alls.
I must be cocking something up. I have a quicker machine than you, but when I ran Melee for the first time last night the performance was a little scatty. It was entirely playable, but not what I'd call silky-smooth.
(10-17-2013, 09:05 PM)dh2005 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2013, 09:21 AM)JMC47 Wrote: [ -> ]If you're into Melee in a competitive sense, particularly 1 vs 1; I believe the original those laptops would be fine. I've seen people in the netplay group do (most) stages at 60 fps on overclocked Core2Duos. If you're into doubles, Fountain of Dreams, etc; you start needing (at least laptop wise) second/third gen i5/i7 processors. NVIDIA cards help a lot for speed in Melee because it enables you to use Vertex Streaming Hack which speeds up the game considerably over D3D.
For Instance, I have a 2670 QM (3.0 GHz max turbo boost, gets 2.8GHz in dolphin) and I can run every single stage in Melee 1 vs 1 without slowdown during netplay matches. Without Netplay, I can probably handle all but Fountain of Dreams and perhaps Mute City with 4 player Free for alls.
I must be cocking something up. I have a quicker machine than you, but when I ran Melee for the first time last night the performance was a little scatty. It was entirely playable, but not what I'd call silky-smooth.
First time you run a game shader files are generated that can create sudden spike drops in fps. If the second time you repeat the same scene after rebooting the game you have the issue then it is your system having trouble, which i doubt with your specs. All in all don't expect silky smooth experience on the first run. Try mario kart for example during a race start the first time and after rebooting the game.
Ahhhhhh...
Good to know. Cheers.
Could anyone possibly recommend a laptop for me that might do the trick? :X
And yeah, I'm a very tech heavy player and will most likely not be playing brawl at all as opposed to PM/melee, so frameskipping makes things a bit difficult, especially with shine out of shield/multishine etc.
A true gaming laptop has dual fansink which will dissipate the heat faster than 1 fansink but gaming laptop ain't cheap . Is that ok for you ? For Example :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834198030
A normal / multi-media laptop has only 1 fansink . Do not underestimate Dolphin . So far , i have seen many multi-media laptop overheated when running Dolphin -> It will run hot ...very hot (it could burn your hands)
There is an exception though . For Example :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314149
That laptop use low power consumption i7 CPU (not ultra low voltage CPU which is weak) which outputs the same wattage as i5 . Big form factor : 17" can dissipate the heat better than smaller form factor laptop