(01-21-2015, 03:03 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Those two statements are completely incompatible with one another. If it were grey then the black level would not be zero.
(01-21-2015, 03:03 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Grab a crt monitor, display a pure black (0,0,0) image, turn the lights off, and point a light sensor at it. Now do the same with an LCD.
(01-21-2015, 03:03 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]What you're likely referring to is glare. CRTs have a more reflective surface which can cause them to appear greyer in high strength ambient lighting due to the extra glare. Black level measurements are always taken with the lights turned off to achieve a controlled environment since ambient lighting is something that is controlled by the user and varies.
You still don't get it.
A CRT is a relatively simple vacuum tube made of glass with a phosphor coating on the viewable side of the tube.
The phosphor coating is LIGHT GREY in color. A plastic layer is then glued on top of the glass for safety and to make the (ugly light-grey) appearance more tolerable (darker). Finally, a light AG coating is applied on top of that plastic/epoxy layer.
Here's what a modern CRT display looks like when it's unplugged (switched off):
Modern CRT Display
In a poorly-lit or well-lit room, the screen is NOT black.
and here's what a modern CRT display looks like when it's unplugged (switched off):
Modern LCD Display
It's pitch-black.
So, even with an infinite contrast / zero black level, the CRT cannot display a *true* black.
(01-21-2015, 03:03 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Why would you want an inorganic LED display? We already have them and they suck.
Organic LEDs are extremely sensitive to humidity / water and the RGB components have a short / uneven lifespan.
Inorganic LEDs are durable / have a longer life and are
water-resistant.
(01-21-2015, 03:03 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]We do have laser based rear projection systems but now they're not being sold new anymore since nobody wanted to buy them.
Because they're super-expensive and bulky (take a lot of space).
A new technology is needed to produce slimmer and relatively cheap displays based on laser tech.
(01-21-2015, 03:03 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]I have a similar benq monitor and to me the difference in motion blur is not noticeable while the RTC errors are. Any RTC at all results in a black shadow behind the mouse when moving the mouse slowly. If you crank it up to maximum it gets REALLY distracting.
It depends on the panel. If it's a TN panel with a decent response time, you can turn it off.
But for VA and IPS, the ghosting when AMA is turned off is unbearable.
VA and IPS have non-linear response times (some color transitions are 20 times slower than others), so RTC is a must.
(01-21-2015, 03:03 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]I am an LCD man myself...
I don't like LCD tech. very much, since it's based on materials in a *liquid* state. This means you cannot use an LCD display when the ambient temperature drops below 12*C (or above 33 *C).
At +10*C or below, you will experience horrible pixel lag (as the LCs become more dense and lazy at lower temperatures). The blur / ghosting is extreme.
This is a big problem with LCD displays (no such issue with CRTs).
(01-21-2015, 03:03 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]I have yet to see any LCD under $10,000 come close to the contrast of a decent crt monitor. So I must strongly disagree. While it's true that a crt might appear more washed out in bright lighting due to the lower max brightness and higher glare in any environment with strong ambient lighting neither one of them is going to look stunning since the apparent contrast will go way down on both.
They're surprisingly close.
The latest generation of VA panels used in HDTVs have a static contrast ratio of over 6,000:1 (real measured value, not "on paper").
Modern VA panels have improved a lot with wide viewing angles, doubled contrast ratio and pixel response times cut in half.
A typical CRT has ~15,000:1.