So basically apart from the processor I just have to make sure the mother board supports it and anything else doesn't really matter?
Could you define 'cooling unit' I mean are overclockers just using some decent fans or are we talking water cooling? What kind cost is it going to be to turn a 4670k from 3.5 to 4.5Ghz from stock? I'm really just looking for a ballpark figure, I have no experience in this at all.
(07-27-2013, 12:29 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]JT! Wrote:What kind of modifications has to be done to run a processor at those kind of speeds?
You have to make sure that your motherboard supports it, your cpu supports it, you have a powerful enough power supply, and a powerful enough cooling unit. That's it.
@DatKid20
What do you mean by that?
They went straight from 1st gen i series to 2nd and abandoned the socket after one generation.
@JT!
You only need : CM Hyper 212 Evo which is dirt cheap , a Z87 mobo (MSI G45 Z87 gaming for example) , aftermarket thermal compound Arctic MX-4
Well I have 1 out of those 3 things, lol.
That's good to hear! I had no idea it would be that simple.
One more question though, what watt psu would you need to do this. I was looking at a 600w. However, I'd only be running 2 HDD 1 SSD and I'm not going to go crazy on the graphics card. Would I need more wattage?
(07-27-2013, 12:49 PM)JT! Wrote: [ -> ]Well I have 1 out of those 3 things, lol.
That's good to hear! I had no idea it would be that simple.
One more question though, what watt psu would you need to do this. I was looking at a 600w. However, I'd only be running 2 HDD 1 SSD and I'm not going to go crazy on the graphics card. Would I need more wattage?
not unless u plan on overclocking a graphics card... but even then you would have wattage to spare.
Make Sure its a QUAILITY 600w though. i suggest Seasonic or Corsair.
@DatKid20
What about westmere?
2009: Nehalem, LGA1156
2010: Westmere, LGA1156
2011: Sandy Bridge, LGA1155
2012: Ivy Bridge, LGA1155
2013: Haswell, LGA1150
The pattern would have continued except they ran into production issues for their new 16nm process. Broadwell was meant to just be a die shrink of haswell just like westmere and ivy bridge were die shrinks of their predecessors (mostly). Since 16nm production has been delayed to 2015 they figure they might as well skip broadwell since skylake will be ready by then anyways.
They couldn't have really kept the same socket anyways. Sandy bridge added an on-die IGP which forced them to change the pinout. Haswell added an on-die VRM which forced them to change it again. Skylake will be adding an on-die PCH, requiring yet another socket change. Each time they move another component off of the motherboard and onto the cpu die they will have the change the underlying wiring. AMD has avoided doing any of these major changes and thus has been able to retain backwards compatibility on their main lineup. Well I suppose that's not entirely true. They recently started integrated components onto the cpu die and changing the socket as a result (FM1, FM2, etc.) but they did it as a fork instead. They continued to make backwards compatible products that lacked the new components (FX series) while at the same time making a line of products that pushed integration forward for those willing to adopt new sockets (A series). It's smart but I do think that it has hurt the quality of their main lineup somewhat by holding off on these improvements. They're going to have to do it sooner or later anyways, might as well get it over with.
JM! Wrote:Could you define 'cooling unit' I mean are overclockers just using some
decent fans or are we talking water cooling? What kind cost is it going
to be to turn a 4670k from 3.5 to 4.5Ghz from stock? I'm really just
looking for a ballpark figure, I have no experience in this at all.
Anything that cools the cpu is a cooling unit. That includes air cooling or water cooling.
(07-27-2013, 12:51 PM)Venomx1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-27-2013, 12:49 PM)JT! Wrote: [ -> ]Well I have 1 out of those 3 things, lol.
That's good to hear! I had no idea it would be that simple.
One more question though, what watt psu would you need to do this. I was looking at a 600w. However, I'd only be running 2 HDD 1 SSD and I'm not going to go crazy on the graphics card. Would I need more wattage?
not unless u plan on overclocking a graphics card... but even then you would have wattage to spare.
Make Sure its a QUAILITY 600w though. i suggest Seasonic or Corsair.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048
I have this in mind already.
(07-27-2013, 12:52 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]@DatKid20
What about westmere?
2009: Nehalem, LGA1156
2010: Westmere, LGA1156
2011: Sandy Bridge, LGA1155
2012: Ivy Bridge, LGA1155
2013: Haswell, LGA1150
The pattern would have continued except they ran into production issues for their new 16nm process. Broadwell was meant to just be a die shrink of haswell just like westmere and ivy bridge were die shrinks of their predecessors (mostly). Since 16nm production has been delayed to 2015 they figure they might as well skip broadwell since skylake will be ready by then anyways.
They couldn't have really kept the same socket anyways. Sandy bridge added an on-die IGP which forced them to change the pinout. Haswell added an on-die VRM which forced them to change it again. Skylake will be adding an on-die PCH, requiring yet another socket change. Each time they move another component off of the motherboard and onto the cpu die they will have the change the underlying wiring. AMD has avoided doing any of these major changes and thus has been able to retain backwards compatibility on their main lineup. Well I suppose that's not entirely true. They recently started integrated components onto the cpu die and changing the socket as a result (FM1, FM2, etc.) but they did it as a fork instead. They continued to make backwards compatible products that lacked the new components (FX series) while at the same time making a line of products that pushed integration forward for those willing to adopt new sockets (A series). It's smart but I do think that it has hurt the quality of their main lineup somewhat by holding off on these improvements. They're going to have to do it sooner or later anyways, might as well get it over with.
JM! Wrote:Could you define 'cooling unit' I mean are overclockers just using some
decent fans or are we talking water cooling? What kind cost is it going
to be to turn a 4670k from 3.5 to 4.5Ghz from stock? I'm really just
looking for a ballpark figure, I have no experience in this at all.
Anything that cools the cpu is a cooling unit. That includes air cooling or water cooling.
I've only seen Nahalem in lga 1366. But i looked it up and it seems that it was also in lga 1156 which makes it better then lga 1150.
Nehalem and westmere were both available for both LGA1156 and LGA1366. LGA1156 was the primary platform for both though (at least on consumer desktops).
DatKid20 Wrote:it was also in lga 1156 which makes it better then lga 1150.
What?
(07-27-2013, 01:11 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Nehalem and westmere were both available for both LGA1156 and LGA1366. LGA1156 was the primary platform for both though (at least on consumer desktops).
DatKid20 Wrote:it was also in lga 1156 which makes it better then lga 1150.
What?
lga 1156 > 1150 that's what i said. (Not in terms of performance of course.)