The 'terrible peripherals' have been bought and I've been using them for a long time now. When I bought them (Speakers, mouse, keyboard etc) a year ago I didn't have the income I have now.
However, everything inside the case on that list has been bought, most of which is in the mail.
The TV I'm using for my main monitor isn't that great, but it is 1080 across a 26" screen which gives really good DPI/PIP or whatever the right initialism is. The monitor I bought is for a secondary monitor so it didn't need to be that great at all.
What would you suggest I change?
Honestly if you had the money all of it.
The monitor takes priority over the rest though. Having all that high end hardware hooked up to a 720p TN monitor is painful for me to think about. Then again you're running off integrated graphics for now so I guess it's not so bad for 3D rendering. The audio system, keyboard, and mouse could also use upgrading though. And you seem to be adding more items as I am typing this and refreshing the page.
(08-07-2013, 11:00 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly if you had the money all of it.
The monitor takes priority over the rest though. Having all that high end hardware hooked up to a 720p TN monitor is painful for me to think about. Then again you're running off integrated graphics for now so I guess it's not so bad for 3D rendering. The audio system, keyboard, and mouse could also use upgrading though. And you seem to be adding more items as I am typing this and refreshing the page.
Haha, yes, yes I am.
Like I said, the 18.5 in ASUS monitor is my secondary. Any watching of movies, games... pretty much everything is done on the 26" TV. For example I'm watching youtube vids now, and paused to type on my 15.5" laptop screen to reply to this. I don't think it needs to be anything special - if it was it'd go to waste.
I'm waiting for a 4k 32" TV/monitor to be under $600 then I'm buy one of those!
Although I am really happy with my audio, but I guess it's ignorance of anything better. Ignorance is bliss for now!
JT! Wrote:No joystick though.
You've made the world a better place. If more people had joysticks we wouldn't have so many roflcopter pilots in arma and battlefield. Can you imagine how boring those games would be if nobody nosedived directly into the ground at 45 MPH immediately after takeoff?
JT! Wrote:The TV I'm using for my main monitor isn't that great, but it is 1080 across a 26" screen which gives really good DPI/PIP or whatever the right initialism is.
Lol, neither. PPI is the acronym. Pixels per inch.
PIP stands for picture-in-picture. It's a feature of some displays that allows them to display two channels of information at once. With one channel being overlayed on top of the other in a window that takes up part of the screen space.
DPI is dots per inch. It's a term mainly used for printers, mice, and some poorly named OS settings.
JT! Wrote:What would you suggest I change?
I don't know what model of TV you have and searching for element 26" 1080p didn't yield any professional reviews or specs from the manufacturer. It looks like it's an entry level HDTV sold at walmart/target/cosco though from a no name brand. Which means the quality probably isn't very good and it's probably a TN display. But without the manufacturer specs. or a proper review I can't be sure.
Is there a sticker anywhere on it with the model number?
JT! Wrote:Like I said, the 18.5 in ASUS monitor is my secondary. Any watching of movies, games... pretty much everything is done on the 26" TV. For example I'm watching youtube vids now, and paused to type on my 15.5" laptop screen to reply to this. I don't think it needs to be anything special - if it was it'd go to waste.
You edited your post to add that part after I responded so I didn't know.
JT! Wrote:I'm waiting for a 4k 32" TV/monitor to be under $600 then I'm buy one of those!
Good luck with that!
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They've been "just around the corner" for 5 years. We're starting to see the first models hit the market now but there is no telling how long it will take for the prices to come down to 1080p levels. The only reason we even have them now is because of the discovery/synthesis of this material:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indium_gallium_zinc_oxide
You can thank the on going quest of smartphone manufacturers to pump up their screen PPI to make their customers epeen larger and the specs look better for this. However there is no known way to cheaply manufacture larger parts using it so we will likely have to wait for some new breakthrough for prices to get really cheap. And there is no telling how long that will take.
JT! Wrote:Although I am really happy with my audio, but I guess it's ignorance of anything better. Ignorance is bliss for now!
Yup. I thought my audio was fine until I installed my first audio card, amp, and loudspeakers. Now it's impossible for me to go back.
Looks like I got to go. I'll be back in a few hours.
Yeah my bad, I went on an editing frenzie. I can't remember what info I've posted in this thread and what I haven't.
I can't find any info on the tv, I got it from best buy refurbished about a year ago. I've never really like it because the blacks are terrible.
Wait.. I think this may be it:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Element-26-Class-LED-1080p-60Hz-HDTV-1.8-ultra-slim-ELEFW264/17165465
Didn't have much of a choice, 1080 tv's that are 26" were hard to come by. Most were 32" but thought it might be too big and would lower the PPI. I know I got it pretty cheap as it was a referb. But it is shitty. Sound is absolutely terrible.
I don't know about the 4k tv's. You can already get a 39" 4k tv for $600. Sure it's going to be amazingly shit in most areas, but still I'm going to say it's not going to be that long, it's certainly not going to take as long as the switch from the old style TV's to hd lcd's, because the fundamental technology is already there, they just have to double up on the pixels.
I actually don't listen to music, in fact I don't think I've ever met anyone who listens to music as little as me. I think the next step would be to upgrade to surround sound. I think I'd get more out where the sound is coming from rather than the quality of it.
What kind of monitor would you suggest I upgrade to? Lets say if I had $350 to blow on one?
JT! Wrote:Wait.. I think this may be it: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Element-26-Cla...4/17165465
I wish you were more certain but I guess that will work. I looked up the model and still no in-depth reviews due to its unpopularity and the fact that the brand is not common or well known. And the manufacturers specs are very vague, even in the instruction manual. I'm pretty sure it's a TN panel but since it doesn't say we'll have to figure it out ourselves.
One very easy way to tell is from the viewing angles. If it's a TN display the display will appear to get significantly dimmer and have washed out colors when viewed from an angle. Like this:
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Notice the only time the entire screen appears bright and colorful is when you're looking directly at it instead of from an angle. Does your TV do this?
An IPS panel will look a bit more like this:
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JT! Wrote:Didn't have much of a choice, 1080 tv's that are 26" were hard to come by. Most were 32" but thought it might be too big and would lower the PPI.
Did you actually have space for a 32" display? Yes it does technically lower the PPI but PPI isn't the most important property of an HDTV.
JT! Wrote:I know I got it pretty cheap as it was a referb. But it is shitty. Sound is absolutely terrible.
The speaker quality isn't really important since you should be using standalone speakers anyways. All integrated TV speakers are shit. Just different degrees of shit
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JT! Wrote:because the fundamental technology is already there, they just have to double up on the pixels.
I assure you it's nowhere near as simple as you're making it out to be. Otherwise they would have been able to do it 10 years ago. 1080p was not chosen because it was the highest resolution they could use. It was chosen because it was the highest they could go and still have the displays remain cost effective. In 10 years that still hasn't changed. A variety of limitations in chemistry and physics make further increases to panel resolution very expensive. These limitations are very difficult to overcome and must be overcome before we can advance this aspect of display technology forward.
JT! Wrote:I think the next step would be to upgrade to surround sound. I think I'd get more out where the sound is coming from rather than the quality of it.
JT! Wrote:What kind of monitor would you suggest I upgrade to? Lets say if I had $350 to blow on one?
I'll answer these a bit later tonight when I have more time. In the meantime do the viewing angle test above and tell me your results since I see that you're online.
You can take pictures at different angles if you want to show me or be really thorough.
Edit: Also how far away are the monitor and TV from where you usually sit?
It appears to be perfect at all angles. SKU on the tv is 5716309. I can't find any more info.
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Not exactly the best pictures. Honestly I don't get any alteration, in fact I get to the such an extreme angle where I can't even read the text anymore just because I'm looking down on it at such an angle.
I think I have space with a little tweaking. Yeah I get PPI isn't the most important factor for an HDTV. But I use it for a monitor and a TV.
I'm not saying it's just that simple, but surely it's a smaller leap from HD tv's to 4k than from the old CRT to an LCD. Anyway we'll see how the market has changed in a year or so. And I'll bump this topic, or not depending how wrong or right I am.
I generally sit about 2.5 feet away from the TV. Up to 3.5 feet in I'm just sitting back in my chair watching a movie or playing a game. But also I'll sit on the couch if I'm just watching something with the Mrs. 7 feet away... this is where it would be nice to have a 32" but I feel it wouldn't be as nice up close at 2.5 feet away unless it had a higher resolution.
Looks like an IPS to me. A 1080p 26" IPS HDTV as a bargain bin product from a no name brand..... This just doesn't add up. How much did you pay for it refurbished? If it's low they must have cheaped out somewhere. Maybe the TV tuner. I'll take another look at that instruction manual and see if I can dig anything up. You might be better off keeping this thing after all.
So this is your primary monitor for the desktop and the 720p monitor is your secondary display in a dual monitor setup, correct?
They cheaped out on the speakers.... and whatever would have allowed this thing to produce blacks that's for sure.
The element TV is my primary, and the cheap ASUS 720 i just bought will be secondary yes (it'll replace the laptop screen).
Got it for $194.16 with tax.
Also, while on the topic of displays. What happens if you try to plug one display into the graphics card, and one into the motherboard. Would that work?