Hi. I currently have a 3 year old laptop with an Intel i5-430m and an ATI Radeon HD5470 video card (which however is bad enough that it underperforms many integrated cards). In 1x/native resolution mode, Wii games work at full speeds (mostly, but sometimes it minorly stutters) and is playable. When I upscale the resolution beyond 1x, the games are slow and not really playable.
I'm possibly looking into buying a new laptop that has an Intel i7-4700MQ and an Intel HD4700 integrated graphics card.
How much of a performance improvement will I get with Wii games on Dolphin if I were to upgrade to that? (I'm aware it still probably isn't exactly the most ideal)
Benchmarks (passmark ratings):
Intel i5-430m = 2096
ATI HD5470 = 227
Intel i7-4700MQ = 7858
Intel HD4600 = 588
Passmark is stupid and incorrect way to measure the power of CPU/GPU .
Intel HD 4600 is as fast as Nvidia GT 540M which can handle 2.5xIR(1600x1320)
i7 4700QM turbo frequency is 3.3GHz . Base on Dolphin Benchmark , i7 4702MQ is almost as fast as i7 920 @ 4.0GHz , i7 4700MQ is faster than i7 4702MQ...
With that said , i7 4700MQ is a high end CPU which is a hell lot faster than any i5 . There is no comparison here , For Example : 1st gen i5 @ 2.5GHz is slower than 2nd gen i5 @ 2.5 GHz clock for clock . i7 4700MQ is 4th gen i7 ...
Basically , if the CPU turbo boost work properly as it should , you will be able to play most game fullspeed (except some demanding games)
raymond Wrote:upscale the resolution
You're not upscaling the resolution. You're increasing the resolution.
(07-24-2013, 10:57 AM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]Passmark is stupid and incorrect way to measure the power of CPU/GPU .
Intel HD 4600 is as fast as Nvidia GT 540M which can handle 2.5xIR(1600x1320)
i7 4700QM turbo frequency is 3.3GHz . Base on Dolphin Benchmark , i7 4702MQ is almost as fast as i7 920 @ 4.0GHz , i7 4700MQ is faster than i7 4702MQ...
With that said , i7 4700MQ is a high end CPU which is a hell lot faster than any i5 . There is no comparison here , For Example : 1st gen i5 @ 2.5GHz is slower than 2nd gen i5 @ 2.5 GHz clock for clock . i7 4700MQ is 4th gen i7 ...
Basically , if the CPU turbo boost work properly as it should , you will be able to play most game fullspeed (except some demanding games)
yeah. The passmark ratings I just copied and pasted from a benchmark website, just for quick reference while I knew it was not gonna mean much.
I'm aware that such a 4th gen i7 would be a huge difference from a 1st gen i5. In fact it looks like well surpasses the CPU that's labeled 'excellent' in the performance guideline page.
However what I'm concerned about is the fact that the laptop I'm looking at has Intel integrated graphics and that the requirement guidelines labels Intel graphics as "bad". However, I see that its talking about pre-haswell Intel graphics, and the haswell card has been said to be know as quite an upgrade from the last generation.
Pre-Haswell Intel graphics are Ivy Bridge Intel HD 4000 (=GT 520M = 1->1.5xIR = bad) and Sandy Bridge Intel HD 3000 (worse than Intel HD 4000)
When you get the laptop , you should check CPU frequency with Realtemp , see if it bump up to 3.3GHz properly (Dolphin must run at the same time you test)
If not , you have to force it manually with
Throttlestop
(07-24-2013, 11:19 AM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]Pre-Haswell Intel graphics are Ivy Bridge Intel HD 4000 (=GT 520M = 1->1.5xIR = bad) and Sandy Bridge Intel HD 3000 (worse than Intel HD 4000)
When you get the laptop , you should check CPU frequency with Realtemp , see if it bump up to 3.3GHz properly (Dolphin must run at the same time you test)
If not , you have to force it manually with Throttlestop
Ok I'll keep that into consideration for when/if I actually go ahead and buy that new laptop.
CPUZ is my cpu frequency monitoring software of choice tho, I'm sure that one would work fine for that purpose too.
Considering that I would have a mobility 4th gen i7 that well surpasses the CPU recommendation, and a GPU that is Intel Integrated Graphics - Haswell HD4600, what would my performance be like with the latest release or rev of Dolphin?
Quote:what would my performance be like with the latest release or rev of Dolphin?
I can't give you a proper answer to this
Each game run at different speeds ...
With Dolphin 3.5- 145 , most game run ok on my laptop . Even a demanding game like Xenoblade can run near full speed (PAL version only)
With latest Dolphin , most game run slower and slower ...To the point that I totally give up this computer (and buy a new one in the near future)
Since i7 4700MQ is much faster than my CPU , you should be ok with non-demanding games
(07-24-2013, 11:41 AM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:what would my performance be like with the latest release or rev of Dolphin?
I can't give you a proper answer to this
Each game run at different speeds ...
With Dolphin 3.5- 145 , most game run ok on my laptop . Even a demanding game like Xenoblade can run near full speed (PAL version only)
With latest Dolphin , most game run slower and slower ...To the point that I totally give up this computer (and buy a new one in the near future)
Since i7 4700MQ is much faster than my CPU , you should be ok with non-demanding games
Ok. But the Intel HD4600 remains to be the barrier for running demanding games and increasing resolution beyond 1x, despite having a much better-than-recommended CPU?
You shouldn't worry about GPU
A game run like 100FPS with 1xIR , it should run 60FPS with 2.5xIR if GPU bottleneck CPU
Even GT 540M has no hope to use 2.5xIR with GPU intensive games like : Mario Galaxy , Zelda SS, Mario Kart Wii, Samurai Warriors 3 ....
If only my CPU was a bit faster or GPU was much faster(double memory bandwidth of 28.8GB/sec) , I could be able to use 2.5xIR on these games
(07-24-2013, 12:11 PM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]You shouldn't worry about GPU
A game run like 100FPS with 1xIR , it should run 60FPS with 2.5xIR if GPU bottleneck CPU
Even GT 540M has no hope to use 2.5xIR with GPU intensive games like : Mario Galaxy , Zelda SS, Mario Kart Wii, Samurai Warriors 3 ....
If only my CPU was a bit faster or GPU was much faster(double memory bandwidth of 28.8GB/sec) , I could be able to use 2.5xIR on these games
Alright so 2.5x would equal near-1080p equivalent resolution, and probably should still run aright on that mode for games such as WarioWare Smooth Moves and New Super Mario Bros Wii (but then otherwise have more guaranteed performance at 2x)?
Btw, I would probably have compared more to the GT 650M because that's what I'm seeing in the market more for laptops with dedicated graphics on the market.