Either start telling me which temps you're looking at or screencap them. Otherwise I have no way to figure this out.
I likely won't be able to respond to most of this until tomorrow.
(07-10-2013, 01:56 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Either start telling me which temps you're looking at or screencap them. Otherwise I have no way to figure this out.
I likely won't be able to respond to most of this until tomorrow.
I've already talked to people about this, they confirmed the CPU temp is the socket temp, and the Package Temp is the core temp.
Btw I posted on the benchmark thread, check it out ^_^
Edit: Oh.... my god... Metro 2033 on max settings and AA on... looks freaking real!!! I have not seen anything like this before! O_O Ive been missing out my whole life
You should not be touching your motherboard while the computer is on. That's really dangerous. Even the VRM heatsink. If you hand slips you could easily short circuit something.
I'm still waiting on answers to some of my question:
NaturalViolence Wrote:Is your cpu fanspeed at max rpm?
NaturalViolence Wrote:Are your video card drivers up to date?
NaturalViolence Wrote:And which specific bus speed did you change?
I kept asking you to try AMD overdrive or HWInfo64 or give me the names of temperatures that you were looking at. You've figured it out now but if you had done any of those things we could have resolved this a lot faster.
I would still recommend that you use one of these two apps and start either providing me with screenshots or more detailed information about your voltages and clock rates (not just core clock and core voltage).
omarman Wrote:Ok so maybe the thermal paste finally set in? I heard rumors that it takes time for thermal paste to work it's magic, I have no clue.
Thermal paste "setting in" will only drop your temps a few degrees. Not 29 C.
Sorry for taking so long to respond.
I don't know how to check if it's at max rpm :/ its 1940rpm approx when its above 42c Idk if its max
My GPU drive was not up to date, I'm updating it now.
I changed the CPU bus speed. I left the multiplier alone, I followed a tutorial by a guy who seemed like he knew what he was doing.
I followed his exact settings almost. I changed the CPU bus speed to 225.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk
I gave you a screen shot as an attachment, you didn't see it? I'll try the other software and do yet another screen cap.
And I won't touch the VRM anymore, it's not getting hot anymore anyways, but yeah, will keep in mind. ESD is bad.
Thanks for the responses
EDIT: Updated gpu driver. Ran Hwinfo64. Check the attachments, they show the same readings and names as hwmonitor.
EDIT: When I was following his OC tutorial, my NB speed and HT speed changed when I changed my CPU bus speed, I didn't know if I should revert them to their default values? Which were 2200 and 2600 respectively. BTW There were some settings I did different, I chose both High instead of ultra high, and did my voltage to 110% instead of 130%. Just to be safe. You'll know what I mean if you watch the vid.
omarman Wrote:I don't know how to check if it's at max rpm :/ its 1940rpm approx when its above 42c Idk if its max
Use your UEFI. There should be away to set it as a percent in there. You can't measure it via voltage (always 12 volts) or current (also constant, I think it's 3 amps) since they use a PWM system to control the fanspeed.
Or I can just tell you that it's running at fullspeed because I looked up the specs for your cooler. Maximum speed is 2000 rpm +/- 10%, minimum speed is 600 rpm +/- 10%.
omarman Wrote:I changed the CPU bus speed. I left the multiplier alone, I followed a tutorial by a guy who seemed like he knew what he was doing.
I followed his exact settings almost. I changed the CPU bus speed to 225. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk
Serious question: Why do you seem to prefer youtube videos over text articles?
A text article would be infinitely better for this and there are tons of great ones available through google.
Also I would use the term "HTT", "base clock", or "reference clock" to describe what you're describing. It's far more proper than "bus speed" since there are multiple buses that you could be referring to.
omarman Wrote:I gave you a screen shot as an attachment, you didn't see it?
I did but that was well after I could have used it to tell what you were doing wrong.
omarman Wrote:And I won't touch the VRM anymore, it's not getting hot anymore anyways, but yeah, will keep in mind. ESD is bad.
It's not the ESD that I'm worried about. It's short circuiting. Luckily most of the circuits on your mobo run at such a low voltage that your body is unlikely to conduct any current. But you never know.
omarman Wrote:Check the attachments, they show the same readings and names as hwmonitor.
See how much better that looks? Please tell me I'm not crazy for thinking this is a much better monitoring application. AMD overdrive is even better.
omarman Wrote:When I was following his OC tutorial, my NB speed and HT speed changed when I changed my CPU bus speed, I didn't know if I should revert them to their default values? Which were 2200 and 2600 respectively. BTW There were some settings I did different, I chose both High instead of ultra high, and did my voltage to 110% instead of 130%. Just to be safe. You'll know what I mean if you watch the vid.
Ugh....18 minutes. You're killing me man.
You're fine keeping your NB and HT speeds overclocked.
lol sorry about hassling you so much xD hahaha
I like youtube because of the comment section, and quite frankly it's convenient to search something I need and get a tutorial. I haven't found any text based websites that do that, unless I use google, but I just click on the first or second link, I don't really have a go to text site. Although I'd love a recommendation
Everything seems good to go then, right?
omarman Wrote:I like youtube because of the comment section
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Article/video comments are generally awful anywhere on the web but I'm not sure if I've seen any worse than youtube. They make 4chan look smart and mature by comparison.
With text articles you can immediately locate the information that you need. This is particularly useful when you have to keep coming back to relocate information as you often do while overclocking. You can also skim through things for faster retention. And tech forums tend to have much better responses from more knowledgeable people than the comments section of a youtube video.
omarman Wrote:Although I'd love a recommendation
Read through this first (official FX series overclocking guide from AMD):
http://sites.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_FX_Performance_Tuning_Guide.pdf
This is a 4.8GHz overclock but the same principals apply (ASUS ROG series mobo overclocking guide):
http://rog.asus.com/216552013/crosshair-v-motherboards/guide-overclocking-fx-8350-to-4-8ghz-on-crosshair-v-formula-z/
omarman Wrote:Everything seems good to go then, right?
I don't know. I'm still waiting on those AMD overdrive screenshots.
Your reaction XD
Well I can't really test the authenticity/reliability of a text based site, but youtube videos have the thumb ratings, so it lets me skim the bad from the good.
Yeah some youtube comments are insanely dumb, "like this if you are watching in 2013" " like this if you hate justin bieber", but the comments I'm looking for are the ones that say "Didn't work, says "binkw32.dll error" and if I see that 6 people said the same thing, I move on to a different video/tutorial or whatever.
I find that in forums, (which I do read a lot based off of google searches), I see a big trend in forums of people smiting down questions. For example a noob asks a question, like 99% of the time, someone says "use the search bar". (They should realize that by answering 1 question they potentially solve the problem of 1000 people, reducing their amount of spam questions). Every now and then, someone actually helps the person, and I solve my problem, and it is faster than youtube, but scarce and hard to find.
I don't really know a site besides google, where I can type my question in a search box and find the answer, usually it's youtube which solves the problem x)
But I understand text sites are better, but I don't know any.
And the AMD overdrive, you are going to have to wait about 3-5 days, I sold my TV I was using as my monitor and bought a new one. 2ms IPS 1080p display, because my old monitor was bottlenecking my quality
So now I'm currently on my Vaio.
omarman Wrote:Well I can't really test the authenticity/reliability of a text based site, but youtube videos have the thumb ratings, so it lets me skim the bad from the good.
99% of the time they're reliable. If a professional organization or an experienced forum user went through the trouble to type a 10 page guide on overclocking they probably know what they're talking about.
omarman Wrote:Yeah some youtube comments are insanely dumb, "like this if you are watching in 2013" " like this if you hate justin bieber", but the comments I'm looking for are the ones that say "Didn't work, says "binkw32.dll error" and if I see that 6 people said the same thing, I move on to a different video/tutorial or whatever.
I don't know how you do it. The number of comments is usually extremely high and 99% of them are worthless.
omarman Wrote:I find that in forums, (which I do read a lot based off of google searches), I see a big trend in forums of people smiting down questions. For example a noob asks a question, like 99% of the time, someone says "use the search bar". (They should realize that by answering 1 question they potentially solve the problem of 1000 people, reducing their amount of spam questions). Every now and then, someone actually helps the person, and I solve my problem, and it is faster than youtube, but scarce and hard to find.
Throughout my entire life (well at least since I learned about google) I have had the exact opposite experience. It's very rare to see a question avoided. Either it will be answered or it won't be. And usually when someone says "use the search bar" it's usually an extremely common question that gets asked over and over and should be very easy to find through google. They've already answered the question many times so answering it again probably isn't going to help anybody other than that one person or cut down on spam.
Sometimes you get BS answers but they're very easy to identify and if you're unsure you can compare their answer against other sources. With enough experience you can figure out virtually anything this way in mere minutes at the most.
omarman Wrote:I don't really know a site besides google, where I can type my question in a search box and find the answer, usually it's youtube which solves the problem x)
But I understand text sites are better, but I don't know any.
That's exactly what you do. You use google. You skim through the results and click the ones that look promising. Then you skim through those to see if what you need is there. If you're coming up short you try different search parameters. If you can't find anything (which is extremely rare and usually means that literally nobody knows) then you ask.
This is how you're supposed to find any sort of useful information on the internet whether it's an answer to a question, a guide, or an angry mspaint reaction image. Maybe you can find what you're looking for on youtube sometimes but you're far more likely to find what you're looking for on google and will likely get much quantity and quality of results. Compare the amount of text content on the internet against video.
omarman Wrote:And the AMD overdrive, you are going to have to wait about 3-5 days, I sold my TV I was using as my monitor and bought a new one. 2ms IPS 1080p display, because my old monitor was bottlenecking my quality
And you didn't ask me for input? I'm deeply hurt. I just did a big post of monitors the other day that I could have copied/pasted.