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If you are really worried about ESD, then make an anti static mat/wristband. They're basically equivalent to a sheet of foil connected to a 1 MOhm resistor, connected to the earth pin of a plug. I did this, and nothing broke.

omarman Wrote:How long will a CPU last at 70c if it's only used for say 2 hours a day avg.

Impossible to predict based on just that information alone. Too many variables to account for. Including data that only the motherboard and cpu manufacturers have.

omarman Wrote:Edit: Okay I looked into it, turns out what I meant to say is that I don't want to go above 60c on my core temperature.

Correct. I didn't believe it at first because that's insanely low for a modern cpu. But after doing some digging I found out that the firmware in AMDs chipsets applies a scaling algorithm to the temperature sensor readings (Intel systems don't do this). I'm guessing this is to predict Tcase but nobody knows for sure. The result in that sensor readings are lower than the actual temperature of the sensor. 3-9 degrees C lower depending on the temperature (at higher temperatures the difference between the real and scaled readings is higher). So if the sensor reading is saying 62C the real temperature is likely around 69C, which is a lot closer to what I would expect the maximum safe temperature to be.

So yeah, keep it below 60C.

omarman Wrote:I think the max for my CPU is around 80c; as in it shuts off.

The temperature at which the cpu throttles and the temperature at which the cpu shuts off depends on the motherboard and how the UEFI is configured. Unlike Intel AMD doesn't list any standard temperatures to use for these so the motherboard manufacturers have to make it up.

omarman Wrote:Apparently everyone on this forum is saying that AMD said to never go above 62c and that anything above would damage the chip, just not sure if they mean the socket or the cores.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1339236/cant-...0-max-temp

Cores.

omarman Wrote:I think intels can take more heat than AMD.

Temperature != heat. Though they are related they're not quiet the same thing and the distinction is important here.

But yes modern Intel cpus can tolerate higher temperatures.

Okay so all the parts got here. And it boots up, fans boot up, even the fan on the gpu. But no display.

Motherboard is getting power, I'm getting a green light and a red light.

To be honest I'm fucking scared :/ I don't know if I shorted something out, I was very careful when building, grounding myself to the case often, no sparks. I made sure the gpu is connected firmly and that it's receiving power. I tried it with one ram, and still no display, and made sure both were connected.

I will admit that I only used 3 standoffs, as I didn't have anymore. What do you guys think the problem is, do you think I broke something? I made sure the CPU was plugged in correctly.

EDIT: Took everything out of the case. Turns out Ram was not in all the way the whole time, not a single stick was in correctly. CPU fan was plugged in the wrong place. Still no display, I think I had signal for a splitt second, the GTX 660 would not stay in place while out of the case. I have no motherboard standoff except 3, wondering what I should do next. Back into the case? Or should I buy more standoffs.

EDIT: I was able to connect the GTX 660 fully. Everything seems to be connected good for sure now, the RAM, the GPU, the processor and Hyper 212. The CPU power is connected and the motherboard power is connected. The no signal box on my screen is bouncing non stop, but when I turn it on, the box dissapears for about a second, and then repears and does the usual. The fans are all running, GPU fan and Hyper 212 fan. All LEDs on motherboard are on, 1 red, 1 green. I have no mobo speaker, and no other graphics card to test with. I'm contemplating returning all the parts.

EDIT: Everything is plugged in, everything is the way it should be. No display on monitor, I think it's CPU motherboard incompatibility. The CPU LED is red and blinks twice. Many are having my problem, I think it's a BIOS update thing.

EDIT: IT'S ALIVE!!! Turns out my memory wasn't supported by the motherboard, but the motherboard has a "memok" that fixes that. The BIOS is stunning, the visuals are great for BIOS, and it supports the use of clicks and a mouse. I was about to RMA the processor and mobo, now I won't have to. I'll keep it on the cardboard box until I get more standoffs. Idle temp is at 38celsius (not sure if thats the core, cpu, or socket)

Edit: Should have refreshed the thread before posting.

The "bios" is actually a UEFI, which is why it's so amazing. I take it this is the first time you've seen a UEFI setup. Yeah I was blown away by it too when I upgraded to ivy bridge.

(07-09-2013, 05:45 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Edit: Should have refreshed the thread before posting.

The "bios" is actually a UEFI, which is why it's so amazing. I take it this is the first time you've seen a UEFI setup. Yeah I was blown away by it too when I upgraded to ivy bridge.

Oh man it's so gorgeous. Everything about it is so futuristic <3_<3

So far I've been able to play Crysis on max settings on 4x AA, a great upgrade from my last setup for sure. Haven't tried any higher AA on it yet.
Is there a program I can use to tell me the FPS while I play? On a sidenote, holy shit is an SSD fast. It's crazy.

I'm about to start overclocking, which programs should I use? Prime 95, Hwmonitor?
And where do I go to participate in the Wind Waker benchmark? Thanks for the help.

First overclock stable at 4.4ghz, however HWmonitor is showing 67c after like 15 seconds of prime 95, so I immediately shut the program off in fear of permanently damaging my chip. The one thing I found weird was that HWmonitor gives me 2 CPU temps, 1 which is usually at 30c and one which is usually at 15c, just to be safe I'm going to assume I don't want the temp that's usually at 30c to reach over 62c. One thing I noticed was that my fan was at 50%> speed the entire time, for the most part it was like at 20% speed. I'll have to change that in BIOS.

EDIT: Jesus fucking christ, my motherboard got extremely hot, the blue heatsink chipsets (not the CPU) got so hot that the stickers on them starting to brown and melt. Ok I'm done, this is when I know it's time to quit. I'm sticking to 4.3ghz, my temperature was perfectly fine there. I mean so hot you could cook an egg on it, I immediately turned it off, and touched it with my hand so the heat could transfer to me, to help it cool.

Edit: Changed the fans to turbo so nothing melts in the future, and stuck with my OC at 4.37ghz with Turbo boost on, I didn't do it the mobo did it. A lot of things on auto, because I trust my Mobo more than I trust myself after that incident.

Install an Cooling Fan backside of motherboard (if your case has space for it) , it will help alot (̣i tried)

(07-09-2013, 11:13 PM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]Install an Cooling Fan backside of motherboard (if your case has space for it) , it will help alot (̣i tried)

I currently have my computer in a macro-atx case with a 12000mm fan, a corsair ceiling fan. lol I have my mobo on a cardboard box right now in my room, I didn't have enough standoffs, and all the fans I have are currently attached to my case. I got a cm storm scout with push pull on front and back and a fan on top.

But yeah I'm definitely taking your recommendation and installing a fan over those blue heatsinks, VRM they are called?
Not the same mobo, but I'm referring to these heat sinks. http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3331/343r.jpg

omarman Wrote:I currently have my computer in a macro-atx case

The proper term if full atx, or more commonly just atx.

omarman Wrote:with a 12000mm fan, a corsair ceiling fan.

I'm pretty sure that's a typo:

omarman Wrote:I didn't have enough standoffs,

Strange, very strange. The chassis only came with 3? It should have come with a lot more, excess in fact. Email corsair support and get them to send you some more for free.

omarman Wrote:But yeah I'm definitely taking your recommendation and installing a fan over those blue heatsinks, VRM they are called?
Not the same mobo, but I'm referring to these heat sinks. http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3331/343r.jpg

Yes, that is a VRM. In my opinion there isn't really any point in air cooling the VRMs.

omarman Wrote:So far I've been able to play Crysis on max settings on 4x AA, a great upgrade from my last setup for sure. Haven't tried any higher AA on it yet.

You kept the GTX 660 right? Yeah with that card you're not going to be able to push anything higher than MSAA. Crysis is still one of the most demanding games out there.

omarman Wrote:Is there a program I can use to tell me the FPS while I play?

Lots. Fraps is probably the most common, that's what I use. But it's not free. There are plenty of good freeware apps to use for this too though, you'll just have to google for them. I've heard MSI afterburner is pretty good.

omarman Wrote:On a sidenote, holy shit is an SSD fast. It's crazy.

People never believe me. Their loss.

omarman Wrote:I'm about to start overclocking, which programs should I use? Prime 95, Hwmonitor?

Prime95 for stress testing. HWinfo64 (get the latest version off of guru3d.com) for monitoring.

omarman Wrote:And where do I go to participate in the Wind Waker benchmark? Thanks for the help.

This thread: https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-the-legend-of-zelda-the-wind-waker-cpu-benchmark

omarman Wrote:The one thing I found weird was that HWmonitor gives me 2 CPU temps, 1 which is usually at 30c and one which is usually at 15c, just to be safe I'm going to assume I don't want the temp that's usually at 30c to reach over 62c.

What are the two temperatures labeled as in the software?

omarman Wrote:EDIT: Jesus fucking christ, my motherboard got extremely hot, the blue heatsink chipsets (not the CPU) got so hot that the stickers on them starting to brown and melt. Sad Ok I'm done, this is when I know it's time to quit. I'm sticking to 4.3ghz, my temperature was perfectly fine there. I mean so hot you could cook an egg on it, I immediately turned it off, and touched it with my hand so the heat could transfer to me, to help it cool.

I told you the power consumption was an issue. Everyone always assumes that I'm talking about energy bills but this is why it's an issue.

omarman Wrote:Edit: Changed the fans to turbo so nothing melts in the future, and stuck with my OC at 4.37ghz with Turbo boost on, I didn't do it the mobo did it. A lot of things on auto, because I trust my Mobo more than I trust myself after that incident.

When it comes to OCing the exact opposite is true. You should trust yourself more than your motherboard. And for the love of god please tell me you did not leave vcore on auto. If you did this is likely the main reason why you're getting thermal issues. The motherboard usually jacks up the vcore way too high, which is far more dangerous for your mobo. and cpu than a high temperature.

Okay, I'll go into overclocking again, do it myself, now that I know that the VRM is supposed to be hot.

Also the 12000mm cieling fan, macro-atx case, get the joke? I was talking about my room, my room being the case, and my cieling fan being the 12000mm fan lol.

Ok I'll take off the v-core on auto and OC myself again. So far on windwaker I'm able to do 4x internal res with 4x AA 16x AF with no frame drops.

WW is a very lightweight game that doesn't require a fast cpu. And graphics settings don't effect cpu load.

I would recommend looking up settings that other people have used with their FX-8350 on google.