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Yes, sorry if I was not clear. With my current laptop, I am not able to get playable framerates for Zelda: Wind Waker in Dolphin. After being frustrated I realized I don't have the ability to play Dolphin with my laptop. Many other older PC games work great on it, but newer ones (even ones like The Secret World) have difficulty running (they can be played but the CPU temperature spikes).
Therefore I meant a Haswell with integrated graphics might be good for Dolphin, but I couldn't play, say, Skyrim without discrete graphics.
Would an A10-6800K have better performance than, say, a Pentium G2120 paired with a Radeon HD 7750, for example? (Probably, yes, in Dolphin, but I don't know about other PC Games) Sorry for all the annoying and amateurish questions, like I said this would be my first computer, I guess I still have way, way more to learn.
Alright, so this combo is clearly a bad deal. Guess I was drawn in by the price tag.
EDIT: You know, the more I think about it, the more I realize that I'm compromising to save myself $300. Which, admittedly, is a lot, but if going for a $500 PC would give me a sub-par experience, it probably makes the most sense just to forgo playing games in Dolphin for the near future and not get a new desktop.
I actually have a Wii already. It was the "Okami in HD" thing that was so appealing to me.
Not sure if I should start a new topic, but
I decided to not skimp and set my budget higher ($800) so that I don't compromise, but this will hopefully last me a very long time. I figure if it can play Dolphin near perfectly it will last me several years.
Here is what I came up with:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/turtlefu/saved/1NW5
based on what people have suggested on the forum. This build should run all (most?) games at full speed + lle audio (SMG2 and The Last Story as well? I don't really know), right?
but my question more has do with the RAM, Case, graphics and overall performance etc. because I'm really unsure about those parts. Thoughts? (I plan to overclock)
No PC can run all games fullspeed because there are not playable (blackscreen , don't boot)
i5 4670k @ 4.4GHz surely run most games full speed include demanding games
Remember : Don't use any voltage higher than 1.2Vcore because Haswell run hot
With 1.2Vcore , you should be able to push it upto 4.6GHz on air
Quote:I'm really unsure about those parts
You could spend more bucks for a better case with more air flow
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107
The rest are totally fine
You made the right choice about buying much better but more explensive vs cheaper pc.
All of your components are great, from memory to psu ( seasonic are great makers )
I am personally nvidia fan, so I would go with 660 gtx for the same price, but of course 7870Ghz is also a great card.
You don't have to really worry about your new pc becoming obsolete even in few years - nowdays pc advancements are really much slower then they were before, once you buy powerful pc as the one you are planning to buy it will last you for years.
We probably won't even see some significant perfomance difference before move to graphene from silicon is made, or maybe even quantum computers
Quantum computers are really going to mess things up. For the first 10 years after they get one fully working, they'll be impossible to code for, and will be fully incompatible with everything which currently exists. Suddenly, someone will write an x86 emulator, and start renting a few out for maybe 10 seconds, or you have every thousandth CPU cycle or something, and suddenly we'll all switch to cloud computing, and this post has become increasing less likely, less like what I was planning, and more thoroughly pure conjecture as it's gone along.
I haven't seen any convincing research done so far that would suggest quantum computing is viable for consumer grade computing. So far it requires crazy cooling systems running on liquid nitrogen/helium that are huge, expensive, power hungry, loud, heavy, and require a constant supply of of expensive and rare lab grade chemicals to maintain. I don't see how you're supposed to keep subatomic particles stable enough without a crazy amount of cooling to do quantum computing. Graphene is a more viable solution. Especially in the short term (which is why everyone is investing into it, including AMD, Intel, and IBM).
Quantum computers have the inherent flaw of being impossible to make logic gates for using current ideas of what can be done with photons and technology we think we're likely to have in the next few decades. However, once a few supercomputers are set up, if they're as good as the best reasonable case scenarios predict, all other supercomputers will immediately become obsolete.
If this happened, and I was rich enough, I'd set up some kind of low latency link a consumer could buy, which would then send commands to my quantum computer, and send them back again, and charge for the service. If by the time this is technically possible, and economically viable, no one has said they plan on doing this, I'd be surprised. However, this may end up being in 400 years, by which time we may well have some kind of system which does work for consumer grade systems which is fast enough to be competitive.
Woah, this is crazy speculation! I wonder when the switch to graphene will actually happen, then?
Update:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/18Azx
It goes over budget, and I'm looking for ways to trim the fat. I do have an old 5400 rpm HDD, so I was thinking I could re-use that and get an SSD boot drive with enough room to fit 1 or 2 games. That might not save me money but I figure it would help with performance. Any game I would play I would just transfer the files over to the SSD before playing and then transfer back to storage drive when not playing it. Also, a 1TB WD Caviar Blue is only $20-30 more...
At the same time, I could save a lot of money by switching the SeaSonic PSU for a Corsair Builder 500W PSU, which seems to be mostly the same (except for 20 less W) but has 80% efficiency instead of 87%.
As for Graphics, the GTX 660 is less powerful than the 7870 GHz and the 7870 XT, but also a tiny bit less expensive. It doesn't have the added value of the ATI games included. The 7870XT is Tahiti GPU based, while the 7870 is Pitcairn. I'm not sure if that makes a huge difference, and it seems like the 7870XT is only 4% more powerful than the 7870 GHz OC, while also being $50 more expensive. I just want the graphics card to last as long as the CPU. I also prefer Nvidia cards because I don't like the increased power usage of the ATI cards and how hot the run, but the Sapphire coolers help alleviate that. Supposedly the 7870XT is the bottom of "high end" while its NVidia equilavent is the GTX 670, which is much more expensive. However, like I said, the difference between the 7870XT and 7870 GHz does not seem that large...
A) Don't move games onto and of an SSD, as they're fine for normal usage, but as soon as a lot of data is deleted/overwritten, you can kill them pretty easily, due to the fact that running more than a few delete cycles can damage the NAND storage.
B) I just read that the GTX 760 is being released/announced on Tuesday. If that's true, then you may be able to get a more powerful GPU for the same money if you wait a few days.
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