So I want to build my first computer. I know about graphics cards and processors, and I know that something like an i5-3570K and GTX 660 are ideal for Dolphin. However, I don't know if I want to spend all that money on my very first PC, especially because I am very unsure about the other components (PSU, Case) and I don't want to make a mistake and fry a very expensive CPU. That being said, I also worry about spending huge amounts of money on something I don't necessarily need or won't last a very long time. I'm thinking maybe my very first PC should be as cheap as possible.
For that reason, I discovered this combo deal from Newegg, which has a FX-6100 and a GTX 650 Ti 1GB. It costs only $460 and is probably the most powerful system you can get for that price
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1348292&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL061113&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL061113-_-EMC-061113-Index-_-Combo-_-Combo1348292-LM5A)
So, here is what I want to know: can I do what I want to do with this setup? Originally I was interested in Dolphin because I want to play Okami in 1080p, but I also want to eventually play: (GC) Killer 7, Baten Kaitos, Eternal Darkness, Paper Mario Thousand Year Door, Beyond Good & Evil, (Wii) Donkey Kong Country, Metroid Prime, Super Paper Mario, Zack & Wiki, Zelda Twilight Princess, Zelda Skyward Sword, etc.
I mean, I would be willing to for the i5 and GTX 660 but only if I absolutely have to.
Thanks for the advice.
(06-14-2013, 09:17 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]I take it you haven't had a chance to glance at this yet: http://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-dolphin-cpu-hierarchy
A 650 TI is fine but you really need an i5 haswell or sandy/ivy bridge cpu.
No, I did, that's why I mentioned that I knew an i5-3570K was recommended. It's just that FX was under "Very Fast" and I was wondering if that translated to "Fast Enough" (or rather, FullSpeed Okami in HD) [and I think the FX can be overclocked, which may help things, but I'm an amateur and overclocking scares me]
Because it's a combo with a deep discount I could always just sell on ebay the mobo and cpu, and then use the savings to get something like an i5-3350P.
You're not going to be able to play okami at fullspeed with any cpu currently in existence. Get yourself a 4670K and never look back. Cheap out on the graphics card if you have to cut spending somewhere.
He should build a haswell rig with integrated or low end discrete graphics and just upgrade the graphics card later.
Thanks for the recommendations...
if I won't be able to build a PC that can play Okami (no matter the budget), then I think I might as well just wait some more. I was under the impression that Okami could be played, there are some videos of it on YouTube.
I was under the impression that the APU family was not very good, and after comparing performance between the FX-6100 and the A10 series I thought they seemed to mostly get the same results (Benchmarks were on Tom's Hardware). But probably with Dolphin being a dual core application in OpenGL there may be a bigger difference because the A10 is a quad at 4.1 GHz rather than the six-core 6100?
But I have read that a discrete GPU/CPU combo at the same price as the A10-6800K matches or bests it for performance.
Regarding using a Haswell chip with the integrated graphics, that might work for Dolphin since it's so processor intensive, but the GPU on my laptop is faster than the integrated Intel GPU. And my laptop can barely play many games. So maybe I should consider what other kinds of PC games I would want to play, as well.
(06-14-2013, 11:42 AM)turtlefu Wrote: [ -> ]the GPU on my laptop is faster than the integrated Intel GPU. And my laptop can barely play many games. So maybe I should consider what other kinds of PC games I would want to play, as well.
That would likely be the CPU's fault, not the GPU.
That FX 6100 is a first gen. (bulldozer) cpu. Combined with its low clock rate the A10-6800K that admin recommended (based on piledriver) will outperform it.
turtlefu Wrote:But I have read that a discrete GPU/CPU combo at the same price as the A10-6800K matches or bests it for performance.
Depends on the application but I highly doubt it.
ExtremeDude2 Wrote:That would likely be the CPU's fault, not the GPU.
He's likely referring to PC games.
Quote:But probably with Dolphin being a dual core application in OpenGL there may be a bigger difference because the A10 is a quad at 4.1 GHz rather than the six-core 6100?
What are you talking about ? OpenGL is graphic backend , not relate to CPU
If you dare buy FX 6100 for Dolphin , you will regret it
Dolphin is a dual core app . For Dolphin , look at single-threaded benchmark , A10 6800k is faster than FX 6100 by a huge margin
FX 6100 is 2 generation behind A10 6800k , you want an old CPU that bad ?
It's usually like this : Bulldozer(FX 81xx, FX 61xx) - llano , Piledriver (FX 83xx, FX 63xx) - Trinity , Piledriver (FX 95xx) - Rickland (A10 6800k)
Quote:But I have read that a discrete GPU/CPU combo at the same price as the A10-6800K matches or bests it for performance
You can try . APU's iGPU : AMD 8670D is on par with AMD 6670
Btw , you can overclock A10 6800k to 4.9GHz easily (near 5.0GHz ) , you can overclock the integrated GPU so that it will outperform AMD 6670
You can also buy a discrete AMD GPU later , you will have a crossfire setup (discrete GPU + integrated GPU)