You're kidding right ? Because that's not true
Once we get 30% IPC improvement over Ivy Bridge , a "future" i7 @ 3.2GHz will be as fast as i5 3570k @ 4.2GHz which is the requirement for SMG + LLE (i assume this i7 has better IPC than i5 3570k Ivy Bridge by 30%)
A) We won't have 30% better IPC by skymont, as it's only a couple of years away.
B) The whole LN2 cooling thing it irrelevant as nothing which would get called a notebook would support that level of overclocking
C) Dolphin is getting more accurate and slower over time. By the time processors are 30% better, dolphin will be slower, meaning we may need a 40% or more better CPU by then.
If only Dolphin would take advantage of more cores.
Would probably run great on a 6-core, and probably perfect on 8-core.
As it looks, there won't be any major improvements in IPC.
Lebada3 Wrote:As it looks, there won't be any major improvements in IPC.
How do you know that?
Lebada3 Wrote:Would probably run great on a 6-core, and probably perfect on 8-core.
No it won't. This has been discussed to death. If anything it would run worse because of all of the synchronization stalls.
AnyOldName3 Wrote:A) We won't have 30% better IPC by skymont, as it's only a couple of years away.
Why not?
Right now IPC is growing by 10% per year and skymont is 3 years away.
AnyOldName3 Wrote:B) The whole LN2 cooling thing it irrelevant as nothing which would get called a notebook would support that level of overclocking
It would only need to hit 3.2GHz like admin said. Which current laptop cpus already get pretty close to (and some high end models can actually already hit).
AnyOldName3 Wrote:C) Dolphin is getting more accurate and slower over time. By the time processors are 30% better, dolphin will be slower, meaning we may need a 40% or more better CPU by then.
This is a valid point.
(06-04-2013, 06:33 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]AnyOldName3 Wrote:A) We won't have 30% better IPC by skymont, as it's only a couple of years away.
Why not?
Right now IPC is growing by 10% per year and skymont is 3 years away.
Because it's closer to 8%, so we may need to wait an extra year. Also, Intel have said (somewhere) that they don't think they can use a smaller manufacturing process than Skymont uses on silicon, and therefore it's the last generation they're putting on their current roadmap. If this is right, then we may not continue getting 10% per year.
AnyOldName3 Wrote:Because it's closer to 8%
Where did you get that number from?
AnyOldName3 Wrote:Also, Intel have said (somewhere) that they don't think they can use a smaller manufacturing process than Skymont uses on silicon,
Source please?
AnyOldName3 Wrote:and therefore it's the last generation they're putting on their current roadmap. If this is right, then we may not continue getting 10% per year.
I don't see how you're drawing that conclusion. If they switch to graphene they switch to graphene. From what I read they have the road map nailed down to 2020 (6nm).
Laptop CPU turbo boost frequency is also being pushed higher and higher
A lowest Quad Core i7 might have 3.6GHz (2 cores active) turbo boost frequency and a high-end i7 might have 4.2GHz+(2 cores active) turbo boost frequency by then
Lowest Quad Core i7 model each year : i7 720QM @ 1.6-2.8GHz -> i7 2630QM @ 2-2.9GHz -> i7 3610QM @ 2.3-3.3GHz -> i7 4700MQ @ 2.4-3.4GHz -> Broadwell ??? (Expect 2.5-3.5GHz ) -> Skylake ??? (Expect 2.6-3.6GHz) -> Skymont ??? (Expect 2.7-3.7GHz)
(06-04-2013, 09:24 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]AnyOldName3 Wrote:Because it's closer to 8%
Where did you get that number from?
Every Ivy-Haswell comparison I've seen has shown an up to 8% improvement. For example, hexus, if you need a specific source.
Quote:AnyOldName3 Wrote:Also, Intel have said (somewhere) that they don't think they can use a smaller manufacturing process than Skymont uses on silicon,
Source please?
I can't remember the source, which is why I put the word somewhere in there.
Quote:AnyOldName3 Wrote:and therefore it's the last generation they're putting on their current roadmap. If this is right, then we may not continue getting 10% per year.
I don't see how you're drawing that conclusion. If they switch to graphene they switch to graphene. From what I read they have the road map nailed down to 2020 (6nm).
I mean the publicised roadmap that Wikipedia etc. refer to. We can't guarantee that after that point things will happen at a predictable rate because as soon as a new system is introduced, there are new factors introduced which are difficult to predict.
I ordered a 4770K, Z87X-OC, 8GB DDR3 1600, and a Swiftech H220 to upgrade my current rig today... I'm so excited
Has anyone else got one yet? If so please post some benchies!
From what I've read so far, a 4770K @ 4.5Ghz is about the same in the SuperPi benchmark as a 3770k @ 5GHz, and roughly 70% of 4770K's hit 4.5GHz [source =
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/06/01/intel_haswell_i74770k_ipc_overclocking_review/6#.Ua3Lmr5--Uk]
I can't wait to play some games at decent speeds with HLE enabled... I'm looking at you DKCR and 1080 Avalanche)!
Someone please tell me I'm not dreaming and I'll love Dolphin AND my new PC
I don't think you'e dreaming... so far.