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(05-10-2013, 02:22 AM)Shonumi Wrote: [ -> ]half of the screws in every computer I've tried to take apart just didn't want to turn to loosen up, and I've left my fair share of stripped screws inside 3 machines already

Screws usually get stripped when you're not using the right screwdriver size. That's the only time that I have run across that problem, and it would be the users fault, obviously. If you use the right tools, you shouldn't have a problem. But yeah, if you're not comfortable doing something like that, then just don't do it. Smile
You can also strip screws pretty easily if your screwdriver has a stupidly pointy tip like mine. v_v;
Even with the right screwdriver (my dad is a car buff, so the garage has plenty to spare) I've managed to destroy a few screws. Like I said, I've come across a lot of stubborn screws that refuse to loosen, so I often end up defacing the thing before it even comes out (in which case, it never came come out at that point). That's why I let CyberPower build my computer :p

Anyway, I can always just send you my laptop and you can do it for me, right SS? I mean, what's the point in this thread if you can't? Wink
(05-10-2013, 01:17 PM)Shonumi Wrote: [ -> ]Anyway, I can always just send you my laptop and you can do it for me, right SS? I mean, what's the point in this thread if you can't? Wink

(05-09-2013, 03:46 PM)Starscream Wrote: [ -> ]do not do this in front of other laptop owners. It seems that when they see you do something like this, they seem to automatically want you to do the same thing to their laptop and assume that you will. Tongue

I knew it would happen, I just didn't think it would while I was online. Sad Tongue
Shonumi Wrote:Even with the right screwdriver (my dad is a car buff, so the garage has plenty to spare) I've managed to destroy a few screws. Like I said, I've come across a lot of stubborn screws that refuse to loosen, so I often end up defacing the thing before it even comes out (in which case, it never came come out at that point).

Yeah I really don't know how you manage to constantly fuck that up but I can guarantee you that is not normal and must be a user issue.

I would say that somewhere in the neighborhood of one out of every 50-100 screws I work on has an issue. And usually it's nothing more than a minor and/or temporary inconvenience. That's normal. If it's happening with something like one out of every 4 screws you're working with than you are definitely doing something wrong or your screwdrivers are just really shitty.

Shonumi Wrote:That's why I let CyberPower build my computer

[insert witty reference to suicide being your only valid option for redemption here]
(05-10-2013, 04:10 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I really don't know how you manage to constantly fuck that up but I can guarantee you that is not normal and must be a user issue.

I would say that somewhere in the neighborhood of one out of every 50-100 screws I work on has an issue. And usually it's nothing more than a minor and/or temporary inconvenience. That's normal. If it's happening with something like one out of every 4 screws you're working with than you are definitely doing something wrong or your screwdrivers are just really shitty.

Fwiw, I said half of the screws, and the most I've ever dealt with was about 6 when I switched in a HDD disk. I vividly remember how three screws got scrapped completely (found replacements, after a bit) and a fourth one did too (but now that HDD can't be removed, at least not nicely). But 50-100 screws? Never dealt with that many in my life, even outside of computing. Big Grin

I don't do that much internal work on my computers (no installing new fans, memory, etc); that's because most of my PCs up until now have been hand-me-downs. The family bought a new computer, I got the old one. Plus I had no money at the time to add anything to them. I'm far from a computer hardware enthusiast; I've installed the aforementioned HDD and PCI-based ethernet card, and that's it. :p

NaturalViolence Wrote:[insert witty reference to suicide being your only valid option for redemption here]

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It's probably just a combination of bad luck and Philips head screws being badly-designed. I've taken apart a few Macs (some of them multiple times) and I haven't stripped any screws (that I know of), but they often use Torx screws inside (and now pentalobe on the outside), and AFAIK, more common PC designs tend to just use Philips head screws for user-accessible things.

Lemme quote Wikipedia: "Where Phillips heads were designed to cause the driver to cam out, to prevent overtightening, Torx heads were designed to prevent cam-out. The reason for this was the development of better torque-limiting automatic screwdrivers for use in factories. Rather than rely on the tool slipping out of the screw head when a torque level is reached, thereby risking damage to the driver tip, screw head and/or workpiece, the newer driver design achieves a desired torque consistently." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx

So, yeah, Apple's getting *one* thing right in terms of their computers' repairability. I wish they'd do something about all the other glaring issues.
But then I have to find a torx screwdriver Undecided . I've got a million phillips and flat heat screwdrivers floating around. But torx? Probably none.
I ended up with a new all time low idling temp of 37C. Not bad, not bad at all.
So i cut off the whole bottom case of laptop then make it become removable bottom cover . This should make life easier (I don't have to take apart laptop everytime i reapply thermal compound)
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