(05-10-2013, 02:22 AM)Shonumi Wrote: [ -> ]half of the screws in every computer I've tried to take apart just didn't want to turn to loosen up, and I've left my fair share of stripped screws inside 3 machines already
Screws usually get stripped when you're not using the right screwdriver size. That's the only time that I have run across that problem, and it would be the users fault, obviously. If you use the right tools, you shouldn't have a problem. But yeah, if you're not comfortable doing something like that, then just don't do it.

You can also strip screws pretty easily if your screwdriver has a stupidly pointy tip like mine. v_v;
Even with the right screwdriver (my dad is a car buff, so the garage has plenty to spare) I've managed to destroy a few screws. Like I said, I've come across a lot of stubborn screws that refuse to loosen, so I often end up defacing the thing before it even comes out (in which case, it never came come out at that point). That's why I let CyberPower build my computer :p
Anyway, I can always just send you my laptop and you can do it for me, right SS? I mean, what's the point in this thread if you can't?

Shonumi Wrote:Even with the right screwdriver (my dad is a car buff, so the garage has plenty to spare) I've managed to destroy a few screws. Like I said, I've come across a lot of stubborn screws that refuse to loosen, so I often end up defacing the thing before it even comes out (in which case, it never came come out at that point).
Yeah I really don't know how you manage to constantly fuck that up but I can guarantee you that is not normal and must be a user issue.
I would say that somewhere in the neighborhood of one out of every 50-100 screws I work on has an issue. And usually it's nothing more than a minor and/or temporary inconvenience. That's normal. If it's happening with something like one out of every 4 screws you're working with than you are definitely doing something wrong or your screwdrivers are just really shitty.
Shonumi Wrote:That's why I let CyberPower build my computer
[insert witty reference to suicide being your only valid option for redemption here]
(05-10-2013, 04:10 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I really don't know how you manage to constantly fuck that up but I can guarantee you that is not normal and must be a user issue.
I would say that somewhere in the neighborhood of one out of every 50-100 screws I work on has an issue. And usually it's nothing more than a minor and/or temporary inconvenience. That's normal. If it's happening with something like one out of every 4 screws you're working with than you are definitely doing something wrong or your screwdrivers are just really shitty.
Fwiw, I said half of the screws, and the most I've ever dealt with was about 6 when I switched in a HDD disk. I vividly remember how three screws got scrapped completely (found replacements, after a bit) and a fourth one did too (but now that HDD can't be removed, at least not nicely). But 50-100 screws? Never dealt with that many in my life, even outside of computing.
I don't do that much internal work on my computers (no installing new fans, memory, etc); that's because most of my PCs up until now have been hand-me-downs. The family bought a new computer, I got the old one. Plus I had no money at the time to add anything to them. I'm far from a computer hardware enthusiast; I've installed the aforementioned HDD and PCI-based ethernet card, and that's it. :p
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It's probably just a combination of bad luck and Philips head screws being badly-designed. I've taken apart a few Macs (some of them multiple times) and I haven't stripped any screws (that I know of), but they often use Torx screws inside (and now pentalobe on the outside), and AFAIK, more common PC designs tend to just use Philips head screws for user-accessible things.
Lemme quote Wikipedia: "Where Phillips heads were designed to cause the driver to cam out, to prevent overtightening, Torx heads were designed to prevent cam-out. The reason for this was the development of better torque-limiting automatic screwdrivers for use in factories. Rather than rely on the tool slipping out of the screw head when a torque level is reached, thereby risking damage to the driver tip, screw head and/or workpiece, the newer driver design achieves a desired torque consistently."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
So, yeah, Apple's getting *one* thing right in terms of their computers' repairability. I wish they'd do something about all the other glaring issues.
But then I have to find a torx screwdriver

. I've got a million phillips and flat heat screwdrivers floating around. But torx? Probably none.
I ended up with a new all time low idling temp of 37C. Not bad, not bad at all.
So i cut off the whole bottom case of laptop then make it become removable bottom cover . This should make life easier (I don't have to take apart laptop everytime i reapply thermal compound)