Ok, so I'm planning out a build and wanted to consort with the masses about this build. I've read through as many different threads that I can and have determined what might be best:
Getting most everything from Newegg because I've used them a lot and trust what they have.
The Case: A Silverstone Sugo Series SG07B (Usb 3.0 kind)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6811163212
Cost: $199.99
The CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz
Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000
BX80637I73770K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6819116501
Cost: $329.99
The Motherboard: Asus P8z77-i
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813131840
Cost: $189.99
The GPU: Gtx480
http://www.ebay.com/itm/nVidia-GeForce-G...vi-content
Cost: $205.00
The Memory: 16 GB Corsair Vengeance
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-..._pc_text_z
Cost: $102.99
Hard Drive: 256 GB SSD Samsung 840 pro
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009NB8WRU/ref=...B009NB8WRU
Cost: $231.98
Secondary HD:
2 TB Spare I have to hold most of the games.
[color=#990099]My Goal:
Play Mariokart Double-Dash and Mariokart Wii 4 players simultaneously with decent anti-aliasing. Will this work?[/color]
I'm considering other cooling options rather than the stock CPU cooler, but I wasn't sure what would fit or hinder in the case.
The air duct fan at the top blows air in, but that might not be enough. I considered this: Intel RTS2011LC --- but I wasn't sure if that was wise, and where that would fit in the case.
I'm trying to keep the build AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE, so that I can keep it in my entertainment center. Right now I have a mac mini in there running my emulators through a special boot-camp partition, but it can't keep up with the gamecube and wii games.
It's a bit over the top.
The 3770K could be replaced with a 3570K.
You definitely don't need a 256GB SSD for emulation.
You definitely don't need 16GB of ram.
You could get a GTX 660 for barely more than the GTX 480 off of newegg. It performs almost the same and has a fraction of the power consumption/heat and noise level. Plus an EVGA model would give you a solid multi-year warranty unlike this no-name brand that you found on ebay. As far as the chassis goes whatever floats your boat. I see no power supply listed. As far as the cooler is concerned I would highly recommend checking the dimensions of the case and using frostytechs low profile list to make sure you get a good performing aftermarket cooler that fits.
http://www.frostytech.com/top5_lowprofile_heatsinks.cfm
(03-27-2013, 09:11 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]It's a bit over the top.
Yeah, I would agree. I just want to make sure I don't come up short on some aspect of it and regret it later on. One-time build sorta thing.
(03-27-2013, 09:11 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]The 3770K could be replaced with a 3570K.
That would drop the cost from $350 to $210, which I'm all for, but in my mind I'm thinking:
[color=#ff6600]3770k -> No overclocking, so less heat greater power possibilities
3570k -> Overclocking needed? And more heat output?[/color]
Since this is a Micro-Case and it'll be in my entertainment center, I am concerned about the heat aspect.
(03-27-2013, 09:11 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]You definitely don't need a 256GB SSD for emulation.
Yeah, I'll drop that. I don't even need that for other games. I was just hoping to get a speed boost on bootup and keep the sound down, but the internal HD shouldn't be louder than the fans.
(03-27-2013, 09:11 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]You definitely don't need 16GB of ram.
Yeah, but for $100, you can't go wrong. 8 gigs seems to be around 70 or so, at least worth it since there's only 2 slots on the MB.
(03-27-2013, 09:11 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]You could get a GTX 660 for barely more than the GTX 480 off of newegg. It performs almost the same and has a fraction of the power consumption/heat and noise level. Plus an EVGA model would give you a solid multi-year warranty unlike this no-name brand that you found on ebay. As far as the chassis goes whatever floats your boat. I see no power supply listed. As far as the cooler is concerned I would highly recommend checking the dimensions of the case and using frostytechs low profile list to make sure you get a good performing aftermarket cooler that fits. http://www.frostytech.com/top5_lowprofile_heatsinks.cfm
Newegg is down ATM [My luck, only when I use it], but which one of these might work?
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-192-B...ce+GTX+660
Or the same one Superclocked-
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPER...ce+GTX+660
Less heat, power, and sound is alright in my book, but I wasn't sure if there was much of a difference if only $10.
AND KUDOS on the link to the heatsinks. Checking it out now.
(03-27-2013, 09:29 AM)waylandprod Wrote: [ -> ] (03-27-2013, 09:11 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]The 3770K could be replaced with a 3570K.
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That would drop the cost from $350 to $210, which I'm all for, but in my mind I'm thinking:
[color=#ff6600]3770k -> No overclocking, so less heat greater power possibilities
3570k -> Overclocking needed? And more heat output?[/color]
Wut, yes you would need to OC both XD
i7 has Hyper Threading but Dolphin does not support it . So the i5 and i7 will run identical
That's why you will need to OC both
TRY NOT TO BOLD EVERYTHING NEXT TIME. MY EYES FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BEING PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED.
waylandprod Wrote:Yeah, I would agree. I just want to make sure I don't come up short on some aspect of it and regret it later on. One-time build sorta thing.
You can only solve so much by throwing money at it.
waylandprod Wrote:3770k -> No overclocking, so less heat greater power possibilities
3570k -> Overclocking needed? And more heat output?
There isn't a significant performance difference between the two in dolphin (3-5% tops). The larger cache and HT don't benefit dolphin in any way. Only the 100MHz higher clock rate will have any impact.
waylandprod Wrote:Yeah, I'll drop that. I don't even need that for other games. I was just hoping to get a speed boost on bootup and keep the sound down, but the internal HD shouldn't be louder than the fans.
Both are true. Your system will be a lot faster overall with an SSD boot drive. But it won't boost application performance, just load times (how long it takes to open an application). I find 256GB to be a bit big for a boot drive but that's just me personally. Since you're going to end up with a HDD anyways with your rom data on it it won't reduce noise very much.
waylandprod Wrote:http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-192-B...ce+GTX+660
Or the same one Superclocked-
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPER...ce+GTX+660
Both are fine. The superclocked edition is obviously a bit faster and a bit more expensive. I would go for the superclocked edition if I were you.
waylandprod Wrote:Yeah, but for $100, you can't go wrong. 8 gigs seems to be around 70 or so, at least worth it since there's only 2 slots on the MB.
To me every dollar saved is worth it but it's up to you.
What about the power supply? You still haven't listed one.
What other things do you plan on using this PC for?
(03-27-2013, 10:13 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]TRY NOT TO BOLD EVERYTHING NEXT TIME. MY EYES FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BEING PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED.
Sorry bout that. I was trying to make it stand out from the quote.
Quote:You can only solve so much by throwing money at it.
There isn't a significant performance difference between the two in dolphin (3-5% tops). The larger cache and HT don't benefit dolphin in any way. Only the 100MHz higher clock rate will have any impact.
Ok, cool. 3-5% wouldn't be worth the $200 extra. I'll drop down to the other one.
Quote:Both are true. Your system will be a lot faster overall with an SSD boot drive. But it won't boost application performance, just load times (how long it takes to open an application). I find 256GB to be a bit big for a boot drive but that's just me personally. Since you're going to end up with a HDD anyways with your rom data on it it won't reduce noise very much.
Yeah, SSD dropped.
Quote:Both are fine. The superclocked edition is obviously a bit faster and a bit more expensive. I would go for the superclocked edition if I were you.
Done! I'll check out the reviews to see if there's any noise issues, but I'll go with the superclock.
Quote:To me every dollar saved is worth it but it's up to you.
Yeah, but with only 2 slots on the MB for memory, I'd rather do the bigger now
Quote:What about the power supply? You still haven't listed one.
What other things do you plan on using this PC for?
Oh! Yeah, the PS is included with the Chasis. "600W 80+ Bronze Certified / Single +12V rail Power Supply"
I've done some checking on it, and the components look pretty good, and that's the highest wattage I see in that size.
And I plan on running Maximus Arcade with all the other emulators on it. Once I have all that done probably configure it for TV play of steam games as well. If you haven't checked out Maximus Arcade, you should, it's really a great front loader for all different kinds of emulation.
AND ORDERED! Thanks all for your help. I'll upload some pics and a vid once I'm all finished.
For the record power supplies that are bundled with cases are almost always of poor quality. I tend to advise people to buy them separately. However in the case of your silverstone chassis the included PSU is a custom silverstone design that looks quite good.
(03-29-2013, 09:23 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]For the record power supplies that are bundled with cases are almost always of poor quality. I tend to advise people to buy them separately. However in the case of your silverstone chassis the included PSU is a custom silverstone design that looks quite good.
Yeah, I agree. Silverstone has some quality products. Most of the pieces are here, so I should have some updated news soon
