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(03-20-2013, 01:27 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]

ExtremeDude2 Wrote:They are also removing VT-x afaik which sucks for those who use virtual machines

Incorrect. They are removing VT-d support on K edition cpus, not VT-x.

Good ... I guess

Which has been the case for previous K edition cpus as well.

Yeah I didn't even notice so it's no big deal. The removal of TSX really pisses me off though because that's more useful. And it makes no sense. Why would it only be removed on the K edition cpus!

Someone should start a company and make better CPU than both AMD & Intel
I would dislike , unsubscribe , blame Intel instantly if their next-gen CPU turned out to be a pile of garbage
Seriously , who would upgrade the CPU with that small improvement ? Higher price does not make sense , HD 4600 (GT2) ain't as good as Nvidia GT 440

Rationale people usually don't upgrade their cpu from one generation to another these days. They usually wait for at least 1 or 2 generations to come and go.

admin89 Wrote:Someone should start a company and make better CPU than both AMD & Intel

Raise 100 billion US dollars (1/58th of your entire countries GDP) in capital for me and I'll get it done. Of course even then you won't be able to acquire the x86 license from Intel or AMD so you'll have to use ARM or a proprietary ISA.

(03-19-2013, 05:38 AM)Starscream Wrote: [ -> ]This doesn't have anything to do with Dolphin, so moved to Delfino.

it has everything to do with dolphin

sandy , ivy, and this one are very important for emus,

any ipc gain should affect dolphin right away

My guess for TSX is Intel doesn't want to validate a feature they think gamers won't be using. If they're wrong it they can release a 4780K and force you to upgrade.

1 thing i need to know
Why does Intel mobile socket & CPU look almost the same as AMD socket & AMD CPU ?
Does Intel have to offer AMD sth (money) ?
Edit : I should make it clear . Desktop Intel CPU doesn't have pins but Mobile Intel CPU has

I doubt they have to pay AMD anything. AMD doesn't own the PGA socket type. Most of their sockets before LGA 775 where PGA as well, I guess they just didn't feel the need to switch over their mobile sockets. Maybe PGA offers something that is better for mobile implementations that LGA does not? I don't know.

PGA has been in used by IBM since the 1960s so yeah......Intel certainly didn't invent it.

LGA has the advantage of reducing the chance of bent/broken pins. This makes it a better choice for systems where the cpu will be installed by an end user and/or systems where the cpu is likely to be upgraded down the road. LGA provides higher pin densities which allows more power contacts and therefore a more stable power supply to the chip. Also if a pin breaks it's cheaper to replace the motherboard than the cpu.

PGA offers lower inductance and better thermal dissipation. Neither of which are really needed for desktops but are more important for lower power platforms. It's also more resistant to impact force and easier to build. AMD server cpus use LGA since with the number of pins they have a PGA socket would be enormous.

I can't really think of any other pros/cons although there are probably more. Intel uses LGA for high power cpus (server and consumer desktop), PGA for medium power cpus (high/midrange laptops), and BGA for low power cpus (low laptops, netbooks, tablets, smartphones, consumer electronics, etc.). AMD uses LGA for server cpus, PGA for consumer desktop and laptop, and BGA for embedded (low power). So they're the same except for consumer desktop cpus. AMD has likely stuck with PGA in consumer desktop just to provide backwards compatibility and easier construction/transition to motherboard manufacturers.

Source: 5 to 10 minutes on google

lamedude Wrote:My guess for TSX is Intel doesn't want to validate a feature they think gamers won't be using. If they're wrong it they can release a 4780K and force you to upgrade.

It doesn't benefit consumers (we lose TSX if we want a K edition cpu) and it doesn't benefit them because K edition cpus are more expensive and this will entice people away from them.

And what do you mean by validating?