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My first console was a GameCube. I also got Mario Kart DD, Pokemon Colesseum, and the SpongeBob SquarePants movie video game that Christmas. I've always loved the GameCube (hence my name)
Shonumi Wrote:Lower your standards, then have some fun.

And can't help but notice how shitty things are and how little people care about the quality of their work.

Shonumi Wrote:Anyway, it's not exactly like I'm making the game myself, just an environment to run a game someone coded a long time ago.

Which is even harder, even more prone to issues, and it will take much longer to fix said issues.

Shonumi Wrote:Scientifically, time moves at the same rate for everyone (for the most part, relativity and speed and whatnot)

"Scientifically times moves at the same rate for everyone.....except that it doesn't."

Ok I kid but that is basically what you said.

Shonumi Wrote:I think we've talked about this before, but I can remember a great deal of my life during my infancy (started playing video games at 1 & 1/2 years old, so I've been gaming for a long time) whereas you started remembering events around six-ish.

That's not quite true. It's hard to explain. I'm really bad at remembering long term life events without something to jog my memory. I remember stuff from 1+ but it's just bits and pieces and I need something to jog my memory (visual, auditory, or something someone says). Anything from more than a few years ago (sometimes even less) is like that. The further back the harder it is to remember and the less memories I have. To some degree everyone's memories are like this, mine is just worse. Whereas I can remember "data" such as arbitrary lists mind bogglingly well even many years down the road and learn things almost instantly. Perhaps my life just hasn't been that interesting so there hasn't been much of worth to remember.

Shonumi Wrote:In my view, age is a number (20, 35, etc), but being "old" is a concept relative to how one sees him or herself.

.......some dictionaries would like to have a word with you.

Anyways "old" is subjective. Because it's a binary state based on a quantity that isn't binary. How old is old? But it is based on age. And age is by definition numerical.

IlovetheGamecube Wrote:On the "no fun allowed" picture, you can do whatever you want as long as it has something to do with classic games.

I don't think you understood the joke....

IlovetheGamecube Wrote:Now for PC games, would you consider Need For Speed Most Wanted (2005) a classic game?

No. I don't play racing games but it's fairly recent, has a "next-gen" version, and didn't revolutionize the genre.

IlovetheGamecube Wrote:I would since a new game has used the title and it has graphics at about the same level as the GameCube version.

What do you mean by that? The xbox360 and PC versions of the original have significantly improved graphics from what I can gather off of the internet. And the 2012 version has a modern graphics engine and high quality art assets.

IlovetheGamecube Wrote:So I guess anything that doesn't look like a PS3 game?

How do you define the graphics of a ps3 game? And why pick the ps3?

IlovetheGamecube Wrote:How about this. If you think it is a classic game, go ahead and talk about it. Like talking about an emulator you made/are making is perfect for this thread.

That's pretty close to random, but ok.

IlovetheGamecube Wrote:The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker HD for Wii U would also fit here, since it is a remake of a classic game (in my opinion, but this is all about opinions).

Well the wind waker could be considering a classic game. But the remake certainly isn't. I suppose it could still be discussed though since it relates to the wind waker.

I guess in the context of this thread "retro games" = "classic games". Although most people (myself included) consider retro games to be 90s or earlier. So GC/PS2/Xbox/DC era games wouldn't count. Plus this entire forum is about GC/Wii hardware/software so posting GC/Wii stuff here is kind of odd.
PS3 graphics is the term I use to describe modern graphics. I wouldn't say PC because it has games from every generation and I also use the term Xbox 360 graphics. If you have a better term tell me.

Anyway anyone can talk about anything that has to do with anything they consider classic or retro. 2005 was 8 years ago, and when your 14 that's a long time ago. Think about my perspective of gaming. "Yeah l'm different..." (starts rapping 2chains)

Basically, everyone has THEIR OWN OPINION. Unless they are incorrect, grammatically or factually, @naturalviolence you shouldn't be so hard. Express your opinions of course, but don't tell people they are wrong. Save it for the on topic forums Smile
(03-15-2013, 10:46 PM)LordVador Wrote: [ -> ]Then let's do it.

The first console I bought was the NES (in 1990). I bought it to play The Legend of Zelda.
20 years later... the first emulator I tried was Nestopia. And the first game I played was The Legend of Zelda. I almost shed a tear Wink
Very similar experience except the game was Super Mario Bros. 3. I also didn't wait 20 years and the emulator was nesticle. Unfortunately when I was a kid I asked my cousin if I could play his Zelda and he said I wouldn't like it so I never played a Zelda game until A link to the past.
Personally I consider anything prior to the n64/ps1 era to be classic with that era as a sort of transitional period and everything that follows to be the modern era of gaming. In my opinion gaming has changed very little since the n64/ps1 era. With the only exception being the Wii/Kinect/PSMove thing which I'm still not completely sure what to make of.
IlovetheGamecube Wrote:PS3 graphics is the term I use to describe modern graphics. I wouldn't say PC because it has games from every generation and I also use the term Xbox 360 graphics. If you have a better term tell me.

Well PS3/360 is at least a little bit better than PS3. You could instead use a console agnostic term like HD, 3D, 3D low poly, 2D, etc. Essentially describing the hardware capabilities and types of games running on them instead of the name of a particular hardware product.

Xalphenos Wrote:In my opinion gaming has changed very little since the n64/ps1 era.

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NaturalViolence Wrote:And can't help but notice how shitty things are and how little people care about the quality of their work.

No fun for you then. There's caring about detail and quality, and then there's caring too much. It shouldn't be that hard to find a balance, at least I haven't found it so (maybe all my work is shitty???)

NaturalViolence Wrote:Which is even harder, even more prone to issues, and it will take much longer to fix said issues.

Nah, not especially, even more so when you're a great programmer (like me). Being serious though, I've spent a lot less time making my GB emulator than I ever did making Mass Blaster (my first "complete" game). It helps not having to create the resources from scratch. I'm not done, but getting it working hasn't nearly been on the same level as trying to make an entire game from nothing. I've even invested more time and effort into my RPG engine, which isn't even close to being functional for games (fun ones at least).

NaturalViolence Wrote:Ok I kid but that is basically what you said.

And that's basically what quantum physics says, you know, uncertainty, Schrodinger's cat, being one thing yet another contradictory thing at the same time. Story of the universe :p (not a science buff, so don't take anything I say too seriously about it).

NaturalViolence Wrote:.......some dictionaries would like to have a word with you.

That dictionary better not begin with "Ox" and end with "ford". Real Americans use Merriam-Webster Dodgy

NaturalViolence Wrote:Anyways "old" is subjective. Because it's a binary state based on a quantity that isn't binary. How old is old? But it is based on age. And age is by definition numerical.

We do indeed base our concepts of "old" on age, but don't forget that in order for that to happen, we have to give significance to age. Numbers, like words, are just mere things unless we attach meanings to them. How old one sees him or herself as depends a lot on how much significance they put behind any given age. Although, it could be debated whether "old" really is a binary state. Yes, in English we have really only two options (new/young or old) but there probably are/have been other languages that have developed ternary (or more) ways of describing such a state. If you're interested, have a look at Linguistic Relativity. Tickles your mind thinking about words you can't define in your own native language (oh, the English nerd in me...)

Oh right, classic gaming. Fun fact NV, I've probably been gaming before you were even born Big Grin Meh, I only played games like Disney's Adventures in The Magic Kingdom and a wee bit of Super Mario Bros., and I was bad at both.

Anyone else remember a time when you could rent NES games? Way back when, I remember getting Mickey's Adventure in Numberland. It was the first game I ever beat (more than once too) and the only game I re-rented after beating it. For that matter, did anyone else frequently rent games? It was sort of a Saturday morning custom when I was growing up, though the games could only be played Saturday and Sunday before we had to return them. I must have played a dozen Genesis games like that (which we could have just bought to keep with all the renting... *sigh* hindsight).
Shonumi Wrote:And that's basically what quantum physics says, you know, uncertainty, Schrodinger's cat, being one thing yet another contradictory thing at the same time. Story of the universe Tongue (not a science buff, so don't take anything I say too seriously about it).

>relativity
>having anything to do with quantum physics

Stop it your words are physically hurting me.

Shonumi Wrote:We do indeed base our concepts of "old" on age, but don't forget that in order for that to happen, we have to give significance to age. Numbers, like words, are just mere things unless we attach meanings to them. How old one sees him or herself as depends a lot on how much significance they put behind any given age.

You can call yourself old all you want. It doesn't make you old. Just like SS can't become young again just by thinking he's young Tongue.

Shonumi Wrote:Anyone else remember a time when you could rent NES games? Way back when, I remember getting Mickey's Adventure in Numberland. It was the first game I ever beat (more than once too) and the only game I re-rented after beating it. For that matter, did anyone else frequently rent games? It was sort of a Saturday morning custom when I was growing up, though the games could only be played Saturday and Sunday before we had to return them. I must have played a dozen Genesis games like that (which we could have just bought to keep with all the renting... *sigh* hindsight).

I remember renting N64 games. Not very often because:
1. They were broken 1/4 of the time
2. It was surprisingly expensive and like any good parents my parents were extremely "cheap" when it came to distractions
3. The selection (blockbuster btw) wasn't that great
4. I wasn't that into video games at the time anyways. My obsession with them started at around middle school if I recall.
NaturalViolence Wrote:Stop it your words are physically hurting me.

Mwhahaha! Just as planned... I told you not to take me seriously.

NaturalViolence Wrote:Just like SS can't become young again just by thinking he's young

Poor SS. while we can debate about our youth, that discussion has rather "passed" him, to say it lightly Big Grin

When the PS1 and N64 came around, I remember renting less (chiefly because we bought more games). I did rent N64 games on occasion, but really that's what friends were for; just bum off of their collection is what I say. I remember my good friend once lent me his SNES just so I could play Super Metroid (awesome buddy he was). I also practically borrowed TimeSplitters 2 from him until I got my own copy. I managed to grab MK64 from him for a while as well, and beat every course for him (something he'd never done). Borrowed Tales of Symphonia from a classmate (different friend) in my senior year of High School before I got my own copy.

With all of this talk about next-gen systems, I don't really care about used games. I've had a lot more fun just swapping games with friends; hopefully that's something that can continue in one form or another in the future. When the GBA came out, me and all my friends would just bring out all of our cartridges, (GB, GBC, GBA, whatever) take our Gameboys out by the side of the house, and we'd just play whatever any of us had, sort of like a shared gaming library. Summers were a blast back then, to say the least.
(03-16-2013, 12:39 PM)Xalphenos Wrote: [ -> ]Personally I consider anything prior to the n64/ps1 era to be classic with that era as a sort of transitional period and everything that follows to be the modern era of gaming

I agree.
For me "Modern era" starts with PS2/GC. Thereby using PCSX2/Dolphin can't really be considered as retrogaming
Gameboy Advance games would be retro, correct? Even though there are games from 2006 and maybe 2007?
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