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I don't know what's wrong with me. Admin89 was right all along. I'm getting the laptop with i3-3120m. The main reason however I'm still considering the A8 laptop is because it has a 640GB Hard Drive. I just don't know if 500GB is enough.
Don't worry about the HDD. The most important thing is to get the best processor you possibly can. You can always get extra storage.
(02-15-2013, 11:48 AM)Starscream Wrote: [ -> ]Don't worry about the HDD. The most important thing is to get the best processor you possibly can. You can always get extra storage.
Okay thanks. I'll get it than. Smile
IlovetheGamecube Wrote:And my gut feeling

Please start proofreading. It's not very hard or time consuming and nearly everyone on these forums (to my continued amazement) does it.

Now let's look at this hardware objectively shall we?

HDD: Irrelevant. All three have HDDs with storage capacities that will likely exceed your use. The differences in storage capacity between the three is small. They're all 5,400 rpm. The difference in disk performance would be difficult to look up and likely extremely small as well. SSD is out of the question in your price range.

RAM: Also irrelevant. All 3 have at least 4GB and are expandable to at least 8GB. Memory frequency is irrelevant except to IGP performance. All three don't list the memory frequency in the specs but since they're all laptops we can safely assume 1333 MHz or close to it.

Chassis: It's a laptop. So unless you're one of those people that likes shiny things this is likely irrelevant as well.

Display:
14" TFT LED Backlit 1366 x 768
15.6" TFT LED Backlit 1366 x 768
17.3" TFT LED Backlit 1600 x 900

#3 is the winner by far.

Battery: All 3 use standard 6 cell lithium ion batteries. Battery life will vary based on cpu and gpu. The third laptop will give you better battery life due to the i3 cpu and igp being generally more energy efficient. It won't be a huge difference though.

CPU: A6-4400M, A8-4500M, i3-3120M

Comparing laptop cpu performance is always very hard due to the number of models and how few of them get benchmarked. To make this easier I'll break this up.

A6-4400M vs. A8-4500M

4400M will have slightly better performance in lightly threaded applications and much worse performance in heavily threaded applications. Overall the 4500M is the better cpu (obviously).

A6-4400M vs. i3 3120M

Not even close. The i3 will obliterate it by a large margin.

A8-4500M vs. i3 3120M
The A8-4500M will get its ass handed to it by the i3 in lightly threaded applications and win slightly or moderately in heavily threaded applications.

Personally I would take the i3 3120M (laptop #3) as my pick since it's the best overall. But for some heavily threaded applications the 4500M may be a bit faster. #3 wins here as far as I'm concerned.

GPU: AMD 7520G, AMD 7640G, Intel HD 4000

According the tomshardware the 7520G is indeed faster than the HD 4000 overall (although barely). And the 7640G is of course faster than the 7520G. And I'm inclined to agree with their data since it matches other sources.

So #2 wins this one.

Cooling: Additional research required. More important than most people realize.

USB Ports:
#1 has 2 usb 2.0 ports
#2 has 2 usb 3.0 ports and 1 usb 2.0 port
#3 has 1 usb 3.0 port and 2 usb 2.0 ports

#2 wins this round although since you likely won't have any usb 3.0 devices for awhile anyways #2 and #3 are tied when it comes to just the total number of usb ports.

Other Ports: All of them have 3.5mm TRS ports for audio output and 3.5mm TS (or maybe TRS? Can't remember) ports for mic input. All three have RJ45 ports for ethernet. All three have SD card ports. So this becomes irrelevant as well.

Motherboard (excluding ports): Additional research required. As far as I'm concerned there shouldn't be a big difference in motherboard quality between the three.

Optical Disk Drive: Irrelevant. All of them can read or burn any format of DVD or CD at a decent speed.

Reliability (brand): Additional research required. As someone who doesn't buy a lot of laptops you'll have to ask someone else. As far as I'm concerned there shouldn't be a big difference in build quality between the three.

Keyboard: Requires additional research. Pretty important.

Mousepad and associated buttons: Requires additional research. Pretty important.

WI-FI: Requires additional research. People fail to realize how important the integrated wireless module and antennas are. All three support 802.11 b/g/n though.

Warranty: Who the fuck cares? Laptops almost always break after the warranty expires. For the record all three have a 1 year warranty so it matters even less here.

OS: Irrelevant. All three run windows 8 x64

Software: Irrelevant. It's always going to bloatware that you'll want to remove a.s.a.p. anyways.

Bluetooth: None of them have integrated BT controllers.

Webcam: All three of them have one.

Speakers: Requires additional research. Fairly important if you don't plan on using headphones or external speakers.

Weight: 4.8, 5.5, and unknown. They all have about the same size and weight so this is irrelevant.

Size: Pretty much the same as screen size. #2 is slightly bigger than #1 and #3 is slightly bigger than #2.

Video Out: Requires additional research. Only #2 has images showing the video ports. I'm fairly certain that all three have a VGA port and an HDMI port but I'm not positive. I am sure that all three have an HDMI port.
Thanks Natural Violence, well said. My respect for you is reborn. When it comes to Dolphin, would i3 3120m play games the fastest? For example, The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker at 1xIR and 1.5xIR with each processor. What would be your projected FPS (Highest, Lowest, and Average)? My guess is that i3 would take it home with min 23 FPS, max 30 FPS, and average of 27 FPS on 1xIR, then followed by A6 and then A8. I do not have any idea which one would run best on 1.5xIR, however. I also don't know which would win with a demanding game like F-Zero GX, since you put that A8 wins on heavy application processes. I have a video to reference to: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1jCCl6-P0F4 of a Sandy Bridge i5 (not sure of the exact one, but it is 2.3-2.9GHz) playing F-Zero GX at 1xIR and its very playable. And on me being a n00b, yeah that's kind of true... But once I get my laptop I'll learn a ton of stuff and create benchmarks and hopefully be able to help people in these forums.
Quote:The A8-4500M will get its ass handed to it by the i3 in lightly threaded applications and win slightly or moderately in heavily threaded applications.
You didn't read benchmark right ?
i3 3120M / i5 2410M knock out both A10 4600M & A8 4500M in heavily threaded applications .
As I mentioned before , even the low-end i3 370M kill both of them in heavily threaded applications

Mobile Trinity 4 cores 4 threads < Mobile Core i3 2 cores 4 threads (Edit : Never mind , I just found out AMD Trinity use something like "Intel Hyper Threading" unlike LLano (this is why Llano outperform Trinity in some benchmark ) . Trinity Dual Core A6 is actually single core , A8 A10 Quad Core is actually dual core

Desktop - Trinity can trade blow with Desktop 3rd gen i3 and kill i3 in heavily threaded applications . Their mobile CPU is the opposite though

A8 /A10 vs i3 3120M/i5 2410M via Dolphin/PCSX2 ? The difference is something like heaven and hell
I hate to redo this over an over . @OP If you take time and read some benchmark rather than watching some stupid youtube video without "FPS counter" (If they use Frame skipping in the video , they will lose FPS but it can make "not smooth gameplay" become "smooth gameplay")
Note : some i7 in the attachment are low-end ultra low power dual core CPU (which is weak). For example , i7-2637M = i3 2310M
Yeah I know I shouldn't go by YouTube... It's just so tempting! I've been looking through benchmarks and yeah i3 3120m is = i5 2450m, but i3 is better because it has better integrated graphics, and AMD's Trinity Line is worse than i3 even if it had Intel HD 3000. So I'm going to get it and have fun Smile Edit: New Question: Would it be smart/safe to overclock the i3 to 3.0GHz?
I even recommend mobile LLano (A6/A8 3xxxM) over mobile Trinity(A6/A8/A10 4xxxM) because LLano can be overclocked and those CPU somehow outperform trinity ? Wth is going on ? AMD . For example , A8 3520M eat A8 4500M alive and it even chop off A10 4600M in Cinebench R10 32bit Multi
Edit : Btw , A8 3520M does not stand a chance against i3 3120M .
Quote:Would it be smart/safe to overclock the i3 to 3.0GHz?

Nope , Overclock a multi-media laptop is not a good idea . Do you want to cook that small form factor motherboard ?
Okay thanks everyone! Forum solved. I look forward to creating and participating in benchmark tests Smile
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