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Operating System:Windows x64

Processor/CPU:AMD Phenom II X4

Video Card/GPU:Radeon HD 6850

Memory/RAM:8gb Corsair XMS3 8 GB (2 x 4GB) 1333 MHz

Mother Board:Gigabyte AMD 760G + SB710 Chipset DDR3 1333 AM3+ Micro ATX Motherboard

Power Suply:Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500w Power Supply

Casing:Cooler Master Elite 430 - Mid Tower Computer Case

I already have a terabyte drive, tv monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers
So that makes it a total of around 500$.
Are these specs good enough?
Thank You!
P.S.
No, I do not want an ivry bridge or any overpriced processor from intel, those things are expensive.
Quote:Are these specs good enough?
Define "good enough" , you should list the game you want to play . Phenom II was good enough many years ago
Phenom II < Core 2 duo / Core 2 Quad < 1st gen i3/i5/i7 Nehalem < 2nd gen Sandy Bridge < Ivy Bridge
Quote: I do not want an ivry bridge or any overpriced processor from intel
No performance for you then . Those Pentium Ivy Bridge are cheap and Pentium IB ~ Core i3 Ivy Bridge (without Hyper Threading) . For Example : Pentium G2120 @ 3.1GHz will beat Phenom II x2 @ 4.0GHz & Phenom II x4 @ 3.6GHz in Dolphin .
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/187?vs=677
(01-24-2013, 10:36 AM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Are these specs good enough?
Define "good enough" , you should list the game you want to play . Phenom II was good enough many years ago
Phenom II < Core 2 duo / Core 2 Quad < 1st gen i3/i5/i7 Nehalem < 2nd gen Sandy Bridge < Ivy Bridge
Quote:I do not want an ivry bridge or any overpriced processor from intel
No performance for you then . Those Pentium Ivy Bridge are cheap and Pentium IB ~ Core i3 Ivy Bridge (without Hyper Threading) . For Example : Pentium G2120 @ 3.1GHz will beat Phenom II x2 @ 4.0GHz & Phenom II x4 @ 3.6GHz in Dolphin .
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/187?vs=677


"Good" as in being able to play an emulated game with at least 3x resolution at decent speed.

Yes performance for me. I do not need a 200$ processor just to play a few games such as super mario galaxy.
Look at this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn52nC7KwCI
If this guy is able to juice out that much performance with a Phenom II X4 with all those crazy objects and 3d models floating around the screen and a low end graphics card ,then why cant I be able to play other games with a hd 6850?
Quote:Look at this video
Stick with old dolphin version then
Dolphin focus on accuracy -> Lose performance on some games(always) and gain performance on some games (rarely)
Quote:I do not need a 200$ processor just
You just hate Intel , that's all
With that Phenom , you will struggle in most demanding games , not only a few games
Pentium IB G2120 outperform Phenom II 955 @ 3.2GHz and it cost only 80$ (microcenter.com)
And if you're willing to pay 140$ for i5 3450 , it's even better

Budget : G2120 + B75 mobo
Fast : i5 3450 + Asrock Z77 Pro 3 / Pro 4 MicroATX-> Overclock to 3.9GHz with "no k overclock" function
Excellent : i5 3570k + Z77 -> Overclock to 4.2GHz or higher
dolphin is CPU demanding, not really GPU (unless you set 4xIR 9SSAA...)
Quote:"Good" as in being able to play an emulated game with at least 3x resolution at decent speed.

IR has nothing to do with the cpu.

Quote:Yes performance for me. I do not need a 200$ processor just to play a few games such as super mario galaxy.

You do if you want them to run at fullspeed or close to fullspeed.

Quote: Look at this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn52nC7KwCI

Sonic Colors is a fairly lightweight game. Not to mention he's using an old build with inaccurate settings.

Quote: If this guy is able to juice out that much performance with a Phenom II X4 with all those crazy objects and 3d models floating around the screen and a low end graphics card ,then why cant I be able to play other games with a hd 6850?

None of those things have anything to do with your cpu. A good gpu allows you to have " all those crazy objects and 3d models floating around the screen " but it does not allow you to emulate a cpu well.
[Warning, overly-lengthy and slightly-furious reply ahead.]

Super Mario Galaxy actually specifically *does* require a "$200 processor" (i5 2500K or 3570K) to run at full speed, and even then the thing has to be overclocked to run it with LLE audio (which is *required* to make the game not crash). Dolphin's CPU requirements are an astronomical and illogical pile of bullshit, I agree, but they're hard facts that you gotta deal with.

(Lucky for you [and everyone else], though, delroth's currently in the process of rewriting all of Dolphin's HLE audio emulation, which pretty much makes it LLE audio minus the fuckton of CPU usage. So, *eventually*, you might be able to run Super Mario Galaxy at a decent speed on that Phenom.)

Regarding the running-at-3x-IR part, that's pretty much the only part of Dolphin that entirely depends on the GPU, and I *think* that 6850 should be good enough. Not 100% sure, though, I'm not a friggin' GPU connoisseur.

Regarding the Sonic Colors vid, fuck if I know how it runs so well. Emulator performance is really goddamn illogical, man. This graphically intense Wii game runs well, this shitty-looking GameCube game doesn't. bsnes needs 3 GHz to run an obscure SNES game at full speed (when using bsnes's optional way-too-accurate PPU renderer), an N64 emulator uses less than 600 MHz (but also uses your GPU). It's a crazy world.
(01-24-2013, 11:53 AM)pauldacheez Wrote: [ -> ](Lucky for you [and everyone else], though, delroth's currently in the process of rewriting all of Dolphin's HLE audio emulation, which pretty much makes it LLE audio minus the fuckton of CPU usage. So, *eventually*, you might be able to run Super Mario Galaxy at a decent speed on that Phenom.)
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(01-24-2013, 11:34 AM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Look at this video
Stick with old dolphin version then
Dolphin focus on accuracy -> Lose performance on some games(always) and gain performance on some games (rarely)
Quote:I do not need a 200$ processor just
You just hate Intel , that's all
With that Phenom , you will struggle in most demanding games , not only a few games
Pentium IB G2120 outperform Phenom II 955 @ 3.2GHz and it cost only 80$ (microcenter.com)
And if you're willing to pay 140$ for i5 3450 , it's even better

Budget : G2120 + B75 mobo
Fast : i5 3450 + Asrock Z77 Pro 3 / Pro 4 MicroATX-> Overclock to 3.9GHz with "no k overclock" function
Excellent : i5 3570k + Z77 -> Overclock to 4.2GHz or higher
*Sigh
No, I just don't want to pay 200$ for the few high end games such as SMG. If anything YOU hate AMD as your using remarks such as "No performance for you then" and "You just hate Intel , that's all" while im trying to be a reasonable user trying to find a good bloody build that is in my price point. Showing benchmark comparisons won't defy that youtube video showing someone with a weaker build than mine playing sonic colors while recording. I have direct proof while yours is on rough guess on how each processor would compare to one another. Saying stuff such as it being a later dolphin revision does not justify crap, if anything it should be faster with the latest build I have. I do not want to play SMG or any of the few "high end games" that require a bloody 200$ cpu. Now, going back on a topic that doesn't require brain surgery to see that I do not want a 200$ processor, are their any other builds that are around the price point im looking for? If so, please respond.
In other word , you need someone to tell you "Yes sir , Phenom II is really fast , you should buy it right away" something like that would please you ? What is the point of this thread ?
Why did you mention 200$ while you can't pay 140$ for an i5 3450 ? . Even if you bought the fastest Phenom II x4 980 , 80$ G2120 still beat it

If I was you , I would build 500$ PC like this :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130827
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
http://www.microcenter.com/product/388579/Core_i5_3450_31GHz_LGA_1155_Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157325
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075

Edit : Also need Arctic MX-4 thermal compound (9$) and Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo (Optional , Intel Stock Fan is good enough for 3.9GHz)
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