(01-09-2013, 10:19 PM)dEnigma Wrote: [ -> ]Nice, now I only need to get Windows Server 2012 (and cheap^^)
If you do get ahold of a cheap license of Windows Server 2012 this is your first stop:
http://www.win2012workstation.com/
There you'll find crucial guides and tips on how to configure the OS. But it doesn't cover everything, some things you have to find on your own depending on hardware and software.
Good luck!
Thanks for the tips, guys. I'm already downloading my own Windows Server 2012
Nice dEnigma! I'm sure you'll love it, I sure love every minute of it and it's so sick when you start the computer and it starts so fast compared to Windows 7.
And the more I use it the Start menu really grows on me. When you have everything set up the way you like it it's really something extra.
I've been using Windows 7 since the release in 2009 and have been very satisfied with it and have had almost 0 issues. I was sceptical to Windows 8 but Windows Server 2012 was what I needed to be convinced in order to migrate (how stupid that may sound)
The time it takes to configure things is well worth the time.
Only thing left to do later is to get a really good SSD but right now I'm gonna relax and enjoy the ride.
Just to ask the question, what does Server 2012 have that Windows 8 does not? You said "without the bloat", but Windows 8 is not a bloated OS: it is well known to be fast, it just is trying to glue two OSes together into windows sandwich. That is the main point that people complain about, yet Server 2012 still has it. What does 2012 have that Windows 8 does not that a normal user (not a server) could benefit from?
Quote:but Windows 8 is not a bloated OS
It's bloating compared to 99% of other OS. Compare it to virtually any linux distro, unix distro, any mobile OS, macosx, or older versions of windows.
Quote:What does 2012 have that Windows 8 does not that a normal user (not a server) could benefit from?
Other than the speed boost probably not much. Most of the extra features tend to be aimed at servers (obviously):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_2012
(01-10-2013, 05:23 AM)MaJoR Wrote: [ -> ]Just to ask the question, what does Server 2012 have that Windows 8 does not? You said "without the bloat", but Windows 8 is not a bloated OS: it is well known to be fast, it just is trying to glue two OSes together into windows sandwich. That is the main point that people complain about, yet Server 2012 still has it. What does 2012 have that Windows 8 does not that a normal user (not a server) could benefit from?
The question you should ask instead is, what does Windows 8 have that Windows Server 2012 does not?
A lot of unnecessary client apps installed and services running by default. Sure this can be debated because you can uninstall and disable most junk in Windows 8 but only to a certain point.
Windows Server 2012 clean installed and with Desktop Experience enabled had only the Windows Store app installed and a minimal set of services running.
Windows 8 clean installed have a shit load of apps installed and services running which actually don’t contribute to anything for me which strives for extreme minimalism.
Again I don’t use Internet and I only play games on my emulation rig.
I can agree with that Windows Server 2012 isn’t meant for normal users because they will most likely get stuck and have numerous issues and problems due to restrictions and software incompatibility + the cost for a Server OS is sky high compared to a cheap Windows 8 OEM License.
As a former IT-consult, database designer and system developer with very good knowledge on how to solve problems I consider myself as an advanced user.
Problems can be solved and problems trigger me. Take Bluetooth as an example, it felt so great when I fixed that problem in Windows Server 2012.
So the benefits (for me) are a clean, fast OS with minimal stuff installed to get me going and heck I got the license for free so there wasn't even a hesitation in wether to migrate or not.
Don't forget dos=high to free 64K of conventional memory.
I gave up on that getting every last MB years ago. MS said Win8 a lot of those services aren't loaded until they're used and I haven't jumped on the SSD bandwagon so few extra GB's doesn't bother me.
The only reason I would use 2K12 for is
ReFS.
(01-10-2013, 09:31 PM)lamedude Wrote: [ -> ]Don't forget dos=high to free 64K of conventional memory. I gave up on that getting every last MB years ago. MS said Win8 a lot of those services aren't loaded until they're used and I haven't jumped on the SSD bandwagon so few extra GB's doesn't bother me.
The only reason I would use 2K12 for is ReFS.
Sadly, there are a few caveats with ReFS. Unlike the move from FAT to NTFS on the desktop, there will be no way to convert an existing volume to ReFS without creating a new volume and copying the data manually. There's no support for booting from ReFS, with NTFS being retained as the file system of choice for boot drives; and you can't use ReFS on removable drives.
EDIT: Hopefully a future Service Pack will change this because ReFS sounds really interesting.