(08-18-2012, 08:42 PM)belomeclone Wrote: [ -> ]Here is an odd question - how do you use Windows 8? Can you just disable that Metro overlay, and have it act like Windows 7?
Can anyone be nice enough to answer this post please? I'm considering upgrading already, but only if I get the same functionality(hopefully more) as Windows 7, with the Metro interface just being a "plaything" if I'm bored.
Also, someone mentioned something about Windows 8 as "fake multitasking"?
Afaik, you cannot disable the metro ui and regain the start menu. You can however just ignore it for the most part and use the Desktop like you would with any other version of Windows.
The fake multitasking just has to do with Metro apps -- anything that runs on the Desktop should still use full multitasking. Metro apps run like apps on an iPad, where apps don't actually run in the background, but are just frozen until you open them again (although certain features can actually run in the background).
Quote:Were you talking about DOS days?
Or Unix, Linux, and any other OS or OS distributions with a CLI.
Even with a OS that uses a GUI you can still do pretty much everything with a keyboard instead of a mouse as long as you know the shortcuts by memory. It takes awhile to learn and get used to but it's way faster when all is said and done (kind of like learning to touch type).
Quote:I guess it depends on what you intend to do. If you're gonna move a file from the current directory to let's say, C:\FOLDER1\FOLDER2\FOLDER3\FOLDER4, you'd have to type something like
MOVE FILE.COM C:\FOLDER1\FOLDER2\FOLDER3\FOLDER4
You'd have to be a blazing typist to beat "Cut and Paste" speed. And we didn't have a clipboard back then.
If your typing speed is decent you can do this just as fast with a CLI unless it's something like my documents where you already have a shortcut ready.
Rarely do you ever have to type out the entire directory address due to the overwelming number of shortcuts you can use. In linux for example:
You can use / as a substitute for the current directory address
You can use cd .. to go up one directory.
You can use cd - to go back to the previous directory.
You can use up arrow to quickly scroll through recent typed commands including directory navigation.
And so on.
Compared to:
Click on start button.
Click on my computer.
Double click on C drive.
Double click on folder 1
Double click on folder 2
Double click on folder 3
Double click on folder 4
In either system you can create shortcuts.
Trust me when you take all of the shortcuts into account your overall productivity will greatly improve in this environment versus using a mouse.
Quote:However, turning off your computer IS faster before. Just push the power button.
Typing a single word and hitting enter is just as fast as hitting the power button.
Quote:The fake multitasking just has to do with Metro apps -- anything that runs on the Desktop should still use full multitasking. Metro apps run like apps on an iPad, where apps don't actually run in the background, but are just frozen until you open them again (although certain features can actually run in the background).
These "Metro" apps, are these windows executables? Or are they in another format? Kinda strange not letting them multitask...
Quote:Afaik, you cannot disable the metro ui and regain the start menu. You can however just ignore it for the most part and use the Desktop like you would with any other version of Windows.
That's what I wanted to confirm. The Windows 8 desktop component. Do I get all the functionalities of Win7?
Quote:That's what I wanted to confirm. The Windows 8 desktop component. Do I get all the functionalities of Win7?
Nope. No start button for example.
(08-19-2012, 03:25 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:That's what I wanted to confirm. The Windows 8 desktop component. Do I get all the functionalities of Win7?
Nope. No start button for example.
Yeah I read about that, but I don't use the Start button that much anyways. I meant with regards to setting up device drivers, customizations, etc. What I worry about with these new versions of Windows is, I think you'd agree, everything gets "dumbed" down with each new Windows version. Plus side for the casual users, simpler. But not so much for the techies who always want to tinker with their OS.
I imagine I'll like Windows 8. Just having thoughts because of what happened with Vista. And another bad thing is, according to what I read, there's no going back to my Win7 setup(unless I dedicate a separate partition for Win8, methinks... not sure).
NaturalViolence Wrote:If your typing speed is decent you can do this just as fast with a CLI unless it's something like my documents where you already have a shortcut ready.
Rarely do you ever have to type out the entire directory address due to the overwelming number of shortcuts you can use.
The most helpful one I've found (by far too) is tab completion. Just type in a few characters of the file of directory you want, press tab, and it'll fill in as much as possible. It'll also list any possible entires if what you type before hitting tab matches more than one file or directory. Tab completion also works for executable programs (provided they're specified somewhere in the $PATH environment variable). The Windows CLI, iirc, has tab completion too, which is very helpful when trying to navigate through sub-folders. Tab completion on Windows doesn't seem to be as functional though, at least on XP, dunno about later versions.
(08-19-2012, 03:25 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:That's what I wanted to confirm. The Windows 8 desktop component. Do I get all the functionalities of Win7?
Nope. No start button for example.
The only item i currently have on my desktop is the recycle bin and thats a style i always use, so this would be a great inconvenience.
Quote:The most helpful one I've found (by far too) is tab completion. Just type in a few characters of the file of directory you want, press tab, and it'll fill in as much as possible. It'll also list any possible entires if what you type before hitting tab matches more than one file or directory. Tab completion also works for executable programs (provided they're specified somewhere in the $PATH environment variable). The Windows CLI, iirc, has tab completion too, which is very helpful when trying to navigate through sub-folders. Tab completion on Windows doesn't seem to be as functional though, at least on XP, dunno about later versions.
Yeah I forgot to mention that one.
start button is still there