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(08-19-2012, 01:10 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: [ -> ]The difference is that computers are good, but windows 8 is bad (unless you own a tablet PC).

Computers were good but threw people in the unknown. It got their lives easier but they had to accept the principle
Whereas with windows 8 we all kinda know what we're doing, as it's like other devices we've used, but it is just harder to use than a more traditional UI. Basically it doesn't throw people into the unknown or make their lives easier, and therefore the analogy isn't much good.
Quote: the analogy isn't much good

You're right but actually my comment seconded what SnakeBoss had said

Quote:we all kinda know what we're doing, as it's like other devices we've used

If "we" is for "guys on this forum" or "geeks" etc I agree.
For "common people" not sure they even worry about it
Quote:You're right but actually my comment seconded what SnakeBoss had said

The attack was on the analogy, not on your explanation of it. You're explanation helped me find the exact weak point which I could attack, so was useful.
(08-19-2012, 02:08 AM)AnyOldName3 Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:You're right but actually my comment seconded what SnakeBoss had said

The attack was on the analogy, not on your explanation of it. You're explanation helped me find the exact weak point which I could attack, so was useful.

The analogy looked logical to me. The weak point was to think it would look logical to everybody
Most of the tech literate people in the 1980s thought that the mouse was an utterly stupid invention that would never catch on because it was slow and inefficient compared to using shortcuts and text commands that were already common in most computers. And guess what? They were and still are 100% right. But the mouse became a standard peripheral because while it is much slower for someone who knows what they are doing it is much easier to pick up and start using for someone who doesn't know what they're doing. Today nobody wants to learn to do things without a mouse or a GUI because even though it's 10x faster nobody wants to bother to take the time to learn it/get used to it. Tablets represent this same cycle happening again and windows 8 is a part of that cycle. I'm not saying windows 8 is a good idea, I'm just saying that it's probably still going to be popular and people will get used to it.
I agree completely
Now that's a good analogy.
(08-19-2012, 05:29 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Most of the tech literate people in the 1980s thought that the mouse was an utterly stupid invention that would never catch on because it was slow and inefficient compared to using shortcuts and text commands that were already common in most computers. And guess what? They were and still are 100% right.

Were you talking about DOS days? I guess it depends on what you intend to do. If you're gonna move a file from the current directory to let's say, C:\FOLDER1\FOLDER2\FOLDER3\FOLDER4, you'd have to type something like

MOVE FILE.COM C:\FOLDER1\FOLDER2\FOLDER3\FOLDER4

You'd have to be a blazing typist to beat "Cut and Paste" speed. And we didn't have a clipboard back then.

However, turning off your computer IS faster before. Just push the power button. Big Grin
The reason that tablets and other touch-input devices are so nice for me is that I can accurately and quickly swipe, tap, pinch, etc. to get things done. I think that the Metro UI is a great idea for computers/tablets with a touch screen, but I personally couldn't seem to use it efficiently enough with the mouse because it just took to long to move the mouse around the tiles for my taste. If my computer had a touch screen I'm sure I'd be in love with the interface though.
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