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I would steer away from the HD 7000 series GPU as well. They've been known to have poor performance with dolphin.

Made up my mind, either going with the FX-6100 or the Phenom 965.

Would the Phenom 965 still be better because Bulldozer is horrible for emulating apparently?

(08-17-2012, 11:44 AM)Cruz Wrote: [ -> ]Made up my mind, either going with the FX-6100 or the Phenom 965.

Would the Phenom 965 still be better because Bulldozer is horrible for emulating apparently?

Much better.

Quote: Made up my mind, either going with the FX-6100 or the Phenom 965.

And why is that? Because it has more cores?
If you want a decent quad-core, save up some more € and get an i5.
Getting either of those is what I call a waste of cash.
More than half of the games won't run well. You're going to be disappointed.

Quote: Would the Phenom 965 still be better because Bulldozer is horrible for emulating apparently?

Read my previous post. The 965 and 6100 have about equal single threaded performance.
Multi threading is a different story ofcourse. The 6100 has 6 cores, while the others have 4 and 2 respectively.

Where are you purchasing your parts from?
Does it have a website? If so, please share the link with us.

I bought my whole setup for little over €600.
Add some more cash to your budget, and you should be able to get a setup similar to mine.

(08-17-2012, 11:58 AM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]Getting either of those is what I call a waste of cash.
More than half of the games won't run well. You're going to be disappointed.

Quote:Read my previous post. The 965 and 6100 have about equal single threaded performance.

That depends on the application. In dolphin they most certainly are not.

People have somehow reduced bulldozers architecture down to "more cores, but slower cores". And unfortunately it's a bit more complicated than that. Bulldozers architecture is radically different than K10 all the way down to the frontend and backend of the cores. It was designed to excel at a different type of application (server applications), and there is more to those applications than just multithreading. The type of application dolphin represents is the antithesis of what bulldozer was designed for. Not just because it's not heavily multithreaded but because it contains lots of conditional and unconditional jumps, non-linear loads and stores, function calls, and so on.

With enough OC a phenom II 965 can run all but the heaviest games at fullspeed without LLE, and it is extremely easy to OC. It's a much better choice between the two.

Dolphin's requirements seem to be going up as more progress is being made, a Phenom II is not going to work as well as it used to. A lot of games will run well, but it's not the processor to go with. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, but it needs to be said anyway.

I know that. I'm not recommending it over something like an i5 2500K. I'm just saying that between the two it's clearly the better choice and Garteal should not have said that they are equal in single threaded performance.

Quote:I'm just saying that between the two it's clearly the better choice and Garteal should not have said that they are equal in single threaded performance.

I never preferred one over the other. And I clearly did not say they were equal in performance.

Quote:The 965 and 6100 have about equal single threaded performance.

Keyword. Granted the 965 is slightly faster.

It depends on the application. There are applications where the 965 is significantly faster and the FX 6100 is about on par with an athlon II. There are others where the FX 6100 is only slightly slower. Would you like me to dig up some benchmarks to show you?