(08-14-2012, 07:05 AM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote: [ -> ]The Intel HD4000 is actually much faster than the other intel crap, it can play source games at Full HD with no lags^^
You're joking right ? I saw SMG benchmark result , intel HD 4000 is much slower than the dedicated GPU even with the lowest 1x resolution (matter between half speed and full speed)
I dare say : all integrated GPU are crap for dolphin
(08-14-2012, 09:25 AM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-14-2012, 07:05 AM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote: [ -> ]The Intel HD4000 is actually much faster than the other intel crap, it can play source games at Full HD with no lags^^
You're joking right ? I saw SMG benchmark result , intel HD 4000 is much slower than the dedicated GPU even with the lowest 1x resolution (matter between half speed and full speed)
I dare say : all integrated GPU are crap for dolphin
You dare, my laptop has Intel HD 3000 integrated and I can run Melee, NSGNTSp, PSO, and Pokemon XD at 100% these are the only games I have on dolphin ofc, so the list will get bigger as time passes.
I have an AMD A-10 4600m (which i highly recommend more so then the A-8 4500m for a budget laptop) with the integrated 7660g HD graphics. for melee with DX11 i run around 73-80% with two characters to about 57-63% with four characters on low lag stages while 60-68% with two characters to 48-55% with 4 characters on high lag stages. On top of this ive been having a minor issue with the sound plugins crashing the game so i changed it to no sound plugin.
EDIT:
So i was messing with the settings a little and i switched on the lock to core option along with turning the sound back to the xaudio2 with the independent thread turned on and the openCL threading for a total added 10-20% to all of the values stated above.
(08-14-2012, 09:41 AM)ChickenMouth Wrote: [ -> ] (08-14-2012, 09:25 AM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-14-2012, 07:05 AM)Anti-Ultimate Wrote: [ -> ]The Intel HD4000 is actually much faster than the other intel crap, it can play source games at Full HD with no lags^^
You're joking right ? I saw SMG benchmark result , intel HD 4000 is much slower than the dedicated GPU even with the lowest 1x resolution (matter between half speed and full speed)
I dare say : all integrated GPU are crap for dolphin
You dare, my laptop has Intel HD 3000 integrated and I can run Melee, NSGNTSp, PSO, and Pokemon XD at 100% these are the only games I have on dolphin ofc, so the list will get bigger as time passes.
That doesn't really mean anything. You may be able to power through a few games at 1xIR, but games will never run as good as they should unless you had a decent GPU. A somewhat weaker CPU with a discrete GPU is a better choice. Worst case scenario would be you'd both be running the game at the same speed, only the laptop with the discrete GPU would look much better. A good CPU with a good GPU beats an excellent CPU with a bad GPU.
Quote:You dare, my laptop has Intel HD 3000 integrated and I can run Melee, NSGNTSp, PSO, and Pokemon XD at 100% these are the only games I have on dolphin ofc, so the list will get bigger as time passes
Because these game ain't graphics demanding . Try Xenoblade , The Last Story , Zelda SS , SMG 1&2
Quote:That doesn't really mean anything. You may be able to power through a few games at 1xIR, but games will never run as good as they should unless you had a decent GPU. A somewhat weaker CPU with a discrete GPU is a better choice. Worst case scenario would be you'd both be running the game at the same speed, only the laptop with the discrete GPU would look much better. A good CPU with a good GPU beats an excellent CPU with a bad GPU.
Ultimately it depends on which of these two scenarios he prefers:
1. Run all or nearly all games at fullspeed or nearly fullspeed at 1x IR
2. Run games at lower performance but be able to run them at 2x or 3x IR
The i3 will significantly outperform at APU at 1x. An intel HD 3000/4000 is enough for 1x IR and the cpu is significantly faster. Of course combining a good cpu with a discrete gpu is the best option but also costs more. Personally I prefer scenario 1 and would prefer to go with the i3.
No matter how good of an "i" series CPU they put in these laptops, once you combine it with Intel Graphics, it's useless. There's nothing worse than buying a brand new laptop that you can't even do anything with. It's just ridiculous to waste money on a laptop that can't play games when you know that you want to play games. Aside from a few of the less graphically demanding emulated games (if it doesn't overheat first), he won't be able to do much else with that. He'll be here bitching and moaning about it a few days after the purchase. Any halfway decent PC game is absolutely out of the question as well. You'll have a really powerful web browsing PC when you've finally realized what you've done.
Look at all those dolphin users that have complained about performance at 1x IR on an intel HD 3000/4000......oh wait. I have yet to see a single dolphin user whos intel HD 3000 has bottlenecked any game at 1x IR or any evidence at all to suggest that would happen (the specs are certainly more than good enough as well). We don't have many intel HD 4000 users yet but it's supposed to be faster or at least the same in performance.
It's not useless, it's faster (much faster I might add), as long as you keep the IR down. I would rather have that than a cpu that can't play the majority of good games reasonably well without extreme overclocking.
