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@Shizuma: you managed to draw a circle now, but how are you planning to draw the complex figures that you'll need to make further progress in the game? And I'm not saying this because I hate people who use emulated controllers, before buying a Wiimote I tried countless ways of drawing the other figures and didn't manage to get them working, preventing any further progress in Skyward Sword, so you can't just say that I'm a hater of emulated controllers because I played with them a loooong time before getting a Wiimote. And when I said to map your emulated wiimote to a mouse, it was only for drawing the circle, that is a lot easier to draw with a mouse than with a controller, then you could go back to your X360 pad setting...

Quote:First off, your post didn't really contribute anything in this thread nor did it help me.

I didn't contribute? I'll be waiting for your next thread when you won't be able to draw the other figures

I suggest you bite the bullet and get an actual Wiimote.

(above: bluetooth adapter)

(above: battery powered IR emitter)

(above: Wiimote (duh))

The bluetooth adapter is anywhere from $2-$12, the IR emitter is $6, and the Wiimote (you should have one already) will cost $35 (which is insane imo). So roughly a little under $25 excluding the Wiimote and you won't have to torture yourself drawing figures with an awkward device. Really the cost isn't that much, and frankly it is worth it, you get to play the game the way it was supposed to be played (control wise), and you will have less issues with controls (most likely).

Other Stuff:

-List of Working Bluetooth Devices (may or may not be up-to-date)
-Compatible Wii Hardware List (results may vary)
-If you choose to actually use a real Wiimote then you may want to read the article "Configuring Controls" on the Dolphin Wiki (you have people like Jhonh to thank for that )

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If you choose to use a controller then that's fine too, but [as you have already experienced] some tasks will be much harder seeing as they are geared for the real thing.

(06-30-2013, 03:41 PM)Jhonn Wrote: [ -> ]@Shizuma: you managed to draw a circle now, but how are you planning to draw the complex figures that you'll need to make further progress in the game? And I'm not saying this because I hate people who use emulated controllers, before buying a Wiimote I tried countless ways of drawing the other figures and didn't manage to get them working, preventing any further progress in Skyward Sword, so you can't just say that I'm a hater of emulated controllers because I played with them a loooong time before getting a Wiimote. And when I said to map your emulated wiimote to a mouse, it was only for drawing the circle, that is a lot easier to draw with a mouse than with a controller, then you could go back to your X360 pad setting...

Quote:First off, your post didn't really contribute anything in this thread nor did it help me.

I didn't contribute? I'll be waiting for your next thread when you won't be able to draw the other figures

What complex figures is it that you have to draw in this game to make further progress, if I may ask? If you suggest that drawing the circle with mouse/keyboard is much easier that must mean that you did get past it using that method, right?

However, in this particular forum people generally do not recieve much help regarding issues of the emulated wiimote and that's also why you won't see any next thread by me. Instead of referring people to buying a wiimote I suggest a post is made regarding the issue that may help people with their current situation.

(06-30-2013, 05:46 PM)Shizuma Wrote: [ -> ]What complex figures is it that you have to draw in this game to make further progress, if I may ask?

Since you're playing a Wii game that uses motion controls heavily I'd imagine there will be times where you have to use motion controls (or emulated motion controls) to achieve the goal.

(06-30-2013, 05:46 PM)Shizuma Wrote: [ -> ]If you suggest that drawing the circle with mouse/keyboard is much easier that must mean that you did get past it using that method, right?

Not really, he/she could have meant that they used a real controller (with Dolphin), and completed it that way. Or they could have done it some way else in which case they probably should have mentioned how to do it.

(06-30-2013, 05:46 PM)Shizuma Wrote: [ -> ]However, in this particular forum people generally do not recieve much

You haven't been registered here for more than a week and you're trying to judge an entire community? hmm, for some reason I doubt anyone will take your assessment seriously .

(06-30-2013, 05:46 PM)Shizuma Wrote: [ -> ]help regarding issues of the emulated wiimote and that's also why you won't see any next thread by me.

We've already told you that this game is better off with an actual controller rather than an emulated one. Others have had various issues with controls and gotten help, but sometimes issues aren't able to be resolved as easily.

(06-30-2013, 05:46 PM)Shizuma Wrote: [ -> ]Instead of referring people to buying a wiimote I suggest a post is made regarding the issue that may help people with their current situation.

You're more than welcome to torture yourself with a controller that isn't suited for this particular game, but people have given you your answer already "either cope with what you've already got or get the actual thing". If you really want to stick with the controller you currently have then go ahead, but [as most people here have told you already] due to the nature of this particular game it'll be hard to do things like drawing shapes or similar things of the sort. Complaining about something that can't be fixed over and over again isn't going to help anything.

Quote:Wiimote+ drains a lot of battery power when playing games that require motion+.

I don't think so , I still have 6 hours of battery life (Energizer Japan 2650mah)
6 hours battery life may be short for you , I agree on that

Quote:Suggesting a player to buy one just for that particular game is frankly very ridiculous. Most people don't have endless pits of money.

How did they get the game in the first place ? Get it for free ?
Seriously , Zelda SS cost 38 bucks atm (amazon)

Shizuma Wrote:However, in this particular forum people generally do not recieve much help regarding issues of the emulated wiimote

You asked for help, and you got it. It just wasn't what you wanted to hear. Emulating a motion plus sucks. It sucks, we're going to tell you it sucks, and you aren't going to believe us and will try it anyway. So we just say "good luck have fun" and point you to where hundreds of other people got help with the exact same problems back when emulated motion plus was new. And that's fine. If you want to try it, go ahead. Just don't come whining back to us because we didn't give you some magic answer that allows you to map 3 axis of rotation (motion plus), 3 axis of lateral motion (wiimote), another 3 axis lateral motion (nunchuk), IR pointer (another two axis, it's a camera), 9 buttons, one joystick (yep 2 more axis), and one dpad; all onto a gamepad with two joysticks with 2 axis each, 11 buttons, and a dpad. Skyward uses 9 axis of motion control, the nunchuk joystick (another 2 axis), the pointer, the buttons, everything all at once. How the hell are you supposed to map all that onto a gamepad? You can't, there simply isn't enough buttons and axis to do it. You'd need more joysticks and more thumbs. Emulated motion plus never worked well. It can get you through the game, yes, but it requires constant reconfiguration depending on the task and plays nothing like the original. If that's what you want, go for it. Fussing at us for telling you the truth you don't want to hear isn't going to change anything.

(06-30-2013, 09:53 PM)MaJoR Wrote: [ -> ]

Shizuma Wrote:However, in this particular forum people generally do not recieve much help regarding issues of the emulated wiimote

Ask this guy: http://hhide.me/IiY
He passed this game twice.

Shizuma you need to stop acting like a whiny kid that gets upset whenever he doesn't get his way, this is a wii game so clearly it wasn't made to be used with a standard controller, be thankful you can even play the game without the wii remote plus let alone the wiimote. Besides, the motion plus adapter is only like 20-25 dollars I'm sure you can handle that if you could afford a pc powerful enough to play skyward sword. This game isn't optimized for controls other than the wii remote plus and if you're going to whine around in the forums because you can't play the game you are more than welcome to try to code the emulation yourself. I don't want to come off as rude but really I'm sick of seeing people get upset because they don't get what they want in the emulator and then blame it on the developers so I'll tell you what I tell those people: either get a motion plus controller, code the emulation yourself or stop whining and deal with it.

He um, wasn't the guy that started this thread and has only made one post so far...

I'd hate for you to waste a perfectly good rant.

Hahaha, there I added his name it's just really annoying because some people think the developers will come up with a magic answer for the emulator to work like they want it to and it's not that way