Quote:Is it good I believe the xeon is similar in performance to a I7
Yeah but an outdated i7 (4 ->5 years old) not latest i7 . It's too old
Since Dolphin is a dual core application . A latest i3 4130 @ 3.4GHz (Stock) outperforms last gen i5 3570k @ 4.2GHz(Overclocked) in
Dolphin Benchmark . That Xeon performance is far behind the latest i3 in Dolphin
Most people tend to believe that i7 is stronger than i5 and much much stronger than i3 but that is only correct if you compare both CPUs on the same generation . Don't forget that newer generation i3/i5/i7 are faster than older generation !
If you want the best bang for buck PC for emulation , you should build your own PC rather than buying OEM overpriced piece of crap
You can start by posting your budget here , we may recommend some good parts for you
Are you sure about the processor according to the model # the model cant be but 2-3 years old
at most
it may be like 1 gen behind the current sandy bridge
actually nevermind for some reason intel has screwy model #'s sorry
Marked unofficial + Unstickied.
But did he really have to unsticky ALL of the useful threads so they can get buried? The whole reason we took the time to make these threads in the first place were to address common questions that we were being bombarded with. Users that read them first would be less likely to ask these questions and even if they did we could just direct them to the appropriate thread to save time. The forum stats will confirm that a lot of people read these threads to get the information that they need and most of them don't post follow up questions. Which means these threads are probably pretty useful even today. If his concerns revolved around them being outdated or some other more specific concern then I would appreciate being told that instead of having them all suddenly unstickied with no warning and no information about how to get them "reinstated" (if that's even possible). Burying all of the useful/popular threads will not reduce user confusion I can promise you that. So I don't really see what the point of this is. It's certainly not preferential to fixing them if there is an issue.
I can sort of understand it being marked unofficial since I'm not a dev. Though that can make it very difficult for a non dev to contribute to the community. The vast majority of these types of useful benchmarks, guides, and info. threads in the past have been made by non devs. For this project the devs have up until very recently rarely contributed to the community in this way and have mostly left this type of thing up to the forum users. Quite frankly I think it's unlikely that a dev will ever make a suitable replacement for these, especially the video card hierarchy thread. Since none of them have ever shown any interest at all in any of these things and some have tried to ignore me when asking for help. Is there really no way a person who doesn't program (and therefore isn't part of the dev team) could write an official thread? Does that really make sense to implement as a rule? I don't know very much about programming but I do know a hell of a lot about CPUs and dolphins performance requirements. So why is a thread about this subject written by me inherently given a lower status than one written by a programmer (which is unlikely to happen for this particular topic)? Shouldn't there be a way for non devs to at least get their information approved by the dev team to be marked official? If no then it's impossible for any non dev to contribute this kind of information to the community in a meaningful way no matter how much work they put into it since neobrain no longer wants to sticky anything unofficial.
For the record this thread could actually use a makeover. And it has received some confusion/complaints from users. But the other two have never once confused any users, given them incorrect conclusions, or troubled anyone in anyway. And they're both extremely useful and frequently seen by users that would not know that they existed if they were buried (which they will be if they're unstickied since info. threads generate a lot of views but very few posts after awhile). So my issue is more with why those two threads were unstickied. I would have actually been ok with this thread being unstickied until I cleaned it up (though of course I would always appreciate being notified first). I try pretty hard to help this community in the ways that I can as evidenced by these threads. But I simply cannot do that under these conditions. It is pointless to spend time making such threads if they aren't stickied because they'll just get buried and no one will see them or know they exist. I would love an opportunity to discuss these things with the devs or even work with them to address any concerns they may have rather than being shut out entirely.
I really genuinely believe that the forums will suffer without any of these threads stickied. And not just because I wrote 2/3 of them.
NaturalViolence Wrote:Shouldn't there be a way for non devs to at least get their information approved by the dev team to be marked official?
Useful information that is frequently looked up by the Dolphin community and marked as official, that probably best describes the Guides section of the main page. Talking to someone on the Dolphin team who can write the changes to the site (and deems the content suitable) seems like the best recourse, outside of the forum I mean. The caveat is that updating such a document might not go as smoothly as say a forum post here. I'm not saying whether this or anything you've written should or shouldn't be official, I'm just trying to point out the places where we do have user-generated content making its way as developer-approved material.
As it relates to having forum-based user generated content being marked as official these boards, I honestly don't think we have a set process (or any process?) for that, other than talking to Dolphin team members directly about it on a case-by-case basis.
(Coming from a noob on the Dolphin forums) I suggest leaving the old sticky threads and creating new and improved ones that speak of the same subject. Although old threads like this one have informative posts, it's pretty large and old. It would be towards everyone's best interest to sum up all of this knowledge into a condensed form and also UPDATE it!( if necessary) It might take some effort but I believe it's worth it. Out with the old and in with the new I suppose. It gets me thinking that this kind of problem might resurface every time the info becomes outdated or eventually becomes considered wrong (in some cases). People constantly visit forums especially when they google so I believe we should still have these stickied posts around even if we put the info on Dolphin Wiki or the main page in which case it would still need to be updated frequently (relatively speaking). The Dolphin Benchmark is pretty recent compare to this thread. I would humbly suggest having a Dolphin Benchmark thread stickied for all of Dolphin users to see. Torcularis wasn't well informed about his UNextremely fast CPU since there are a variety of i5s from old to new. So the 2 major problems I see here is unclear info and up to date info (mostly this). But we can take the other direction and just go with what Shonumi mentioned. Having this kind of useful information on the main page. I would again suggest having any kind of valuable info on both the main page for reliability(since it should be considered official) and on the forums for gradual improvement as everyone tries out Dolphin for themselves.
And to lighten up the mood we should all have some Donuts. : )
Make two categorys:
- Will run most games at full speed: i5 4670k etc.
-Will not (FX-8350...)
Then it's idiot proof.