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Well then I don't think I should disagree with anything you say because I never did and still don't take criticism well. I don't know why, but I always seem to take it very personally in a low self-esteem kind of way, even when what's being said makes perfectly logical sense and I even agree with it.

I think perhaps it has less to do with what is being said and more maybe how it is said, or the idea that they're saying at all making me feel that I'm not adequate on my own or that I feel they're treating me as if I'm a child and are not aware of certain things when I very much am aware (this happened a TON in high school...)

Let's just say I'm far from an "average" person. I'm not someone that goes into rage-fits or anger at all, but just the way I respond and react to things are...not typical.

Quote: Well then I don't think I should disagree with anything you say because I never did and still don't take criticism well. I don't know why, but I always seem to take it very personally in a low self-esteem kind of way, even when what's being said makes perfectly logical sense and I even agree with it.

......I don't know how to respond to that.

Quote:I think perhaps it has less to do with what is being said and more maybe how it is said, or the idea that they're saying at all making me feel that I'm not adequate on my own

People like/need to convince others around them that they are right about subjects that they are passionate about. It's a natural human drive to try and mold others around you to be more like you and to in turn be molded by them. This is why people (including you and me) act this way whether they realize it or not. We are social animals. I'm sure you already know this.

Quote:or that I feel they're treating me as if I'm a child and are not aware of certain things when I very much am aware (this happened a TON in high school...)

Well due to our inherent lack of psychic abilities it's pretty hard for us to automatically know what the full extent of your knowledge is. So it's much safer to just assume that the other person is "average" until you learn otherwise through conversation. I find myself doing this to people all the time in real life, sometimes I have to stop myself as I'm doing it, it's really hard not to do it (at least for me). Once I know a person very well (or know their background) then I can stop making those assumptions. Conversation slowly reveals what the other person does and does not know.

Quote:Let's just say I'm far from an "average" person. I'm not someone that goes into rage-fits or anger at all, but just the way I respond and react to things are...not typical.

I figured that out pretty quickly (as I'm sure everyone else did). If you can talk about these subjects here then that means you know a fair bit about them. And you haven't done anything to indicate an aggressive or unusual attitude yet, you're quite calm, calmer than me for sure.

tl;dr - we need to stop quoting each-other. I mean, what's this got to do with Dolphin and CPUs?

EDIT: Heh, talk about mood swings. In mornings (such as right now) I'm much serious, sarcastic, and all around snarky. At night I turn into...well, this text is an example (the post typed here last night):


FYI: For reference I'm a 22-year old straight male (either that or a lesbian in a male body)

(10-18-2012, 04:33 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]People like/need to convince others around them that they are right about subjects that they are passionate about. It's a natural human drive to try and mold others around you to be more like you and to in turn be molded by them. This is why people (including you and me) act this way whether they realize it or not. We are social animals. I'm sure you already know this.

The thing is, at least for me, over the last maybe 2 years I've found things and people more interesting when you DON'T try to impose your own beliefs about anything onto someone. Maybe this is just my science nerd coming out but I find those differences to be neat...unless they try to force me to to view something their way. I much prefer the approach of "discovery" or, belief-wise, leading someone to the point of where that belief actually lies. (in other words, rather than telling someone that 4 is greater than two, show them the amount of 2 and then show them the amount of four and then ask them which is a greater amount).

(10-18-2012, 04:33 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:or that I feel they're treating me as if I'm a child and are not aware of certain things when I very much am aware (this happened a TON in high school...)

Well due to our inherent lack of psychic abilities it's pretty hard for us to automatically know what the full extent of your knowledge is. So it's much safer to just assume that the other person is "average" until you learn otherwise through conversation. I find myself doing this to people all the time in real life, sometimes I have to stop myself as I'm doing it, it's really hard not to do it (at least for me). Once I know a person very well (or know their background) then I can stop making those assumptions. Conversation slowly reveals what the other person does and does not know.

That's funny because I'm almost the exact opposite. I usually end up asking several questions at first establishing what they do know about something so that I don't make any assumptions, because assuming things = BAD (for many reasons). At the same time I don't like small-talk so I really only like discussing specific subjects. Alternatively I just let THEM ask me the questions and I answer them. So even though you say we're "social animals", I say I'm an "anti-social animal" (heck I'm seriously close to being a hikikomori in real life)

(10-18-2012, 04:33 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:Let's just say I'm far from an "average" person. I'm not someone that goes into rage-fits or anger at all, but just the way I respond and react to things are...not typical.

I figured that out pretty quickly (as I'm sure everyone else did). If you can talk about these subjects here then that means you know a fair bit about them. And you haven't done anything to indicate an aggressive or unusual attitude yet, you're quite calm, calmer than me for sure.

For one thing, I have in the past (in both real life and on the internet) been punished for showing emotions such as passion or general "hot-bloodedness", particularly when I'm feeling critical over something that I feel is particularly wrong. So over time I've pretty much come to the conclusion that those emotions just get in the way of connecting with people, and therefore I intentionally suppress them within myself. However, this also usually causes me to suppress much of my emotion in general in social situations due to, I'm guessing is a fear of judgment and resentment. Those suppressed emotions of mine still very much exist, but until I become quite familiar and comfortable with a person, they stay hidden. The first to come out are usually of the laughter and joy veriety, but even more familiarity starts bringing out my more critical side, particularly those of the "helping" verity ("why did you do that?!" "no, don't do that..." "you're doing it wrong!, do it like this" "oy vey, what'd you do now..." and etc.), but even then there's still the more "delicate" emotions that never really see the light of day... (literally) Let's just say water has flowed onto my pillow at night several times in the past.

So I guess you could say I'm a hybrid of what Japanese-fandom called "kuudere" and "tsundere" - an outer layer of "kuu", a middle "tsun", and a deeper "dere". Kuutsundere perhaps?

Quote:FYI: For reference I'm a 22-year old straight male (either that or a lesbian in a male body)

Quote:The thing is, at least for me, over the last maybe 2 years I've found things and people more interesting when you DON'T try to impose your own beliefs about anything onto someone. Maybe this is just my science nerd coming out but I find those differences to be neat...unless they try to force me to to view something their way. I much prefer the approach of "discovery" or, belief-wise, leading someone to the point of where that belief actually lies. (in other words, rather than telling someone that 4 is greater than two, show them the amount of 2 and then show them the amount of four and then ask them which is a greater amount).

Fair enough. But sometimes people try to mask incorrect assumptions as "beliefs" so that they don't have to defend them, and I hate that to the point where I will do everything in my power to expose it by forcing them to defend it. If what they're saying is right then it will stand up to my scrutiny and I will learn something, if it isn't then they will hopefully understand their fault and they will learn something. Calling someone out on their "beliefs" is a mutually beneficial action.

Quote:That's funny because I'm almost the exact opposite. I usually end up asking several questions at first establishing what they do know about something so that I don't make any assumptions, because assuming things = BAD (for many reasons). At the same time I don't like small-talk so I really only like discussing specific subjects. Alternatively I just let THEM ask me the questions and I answer them. So even though you say we're "social animals", I say I'm an "anti-social animal" Tongue (heck I'm seriously close to being a hikikomori in real life)

1. There is a difference between being "anti-social" and being "asocial". You are asocial, as are most people who are active in communities like this one.
2. You are a social animal. There is no escaping that fact. If you are stranded anywhere completely alone for a few days/weeks you WILL go completely insane and start hallucinating and talking to inanimate objects. I would point to the numerous case studies done on this but I'm pretty sure you'll take my word for it anyways (or you already know this).

Quote: For one thing, I have in the past (in both real life and on the internet) been punished for showing emotions such as passion or general "hot-bloodedness", particularly when I'm feeling critical over something that I feel is particularly wrong. So over time I've pretty much come to the conclusion that those emotions just get in the way of connecting with people, and therefore I intentionally suppress them within myself. However, this also usually causes me to suppress much of my emotion in general in social situations due to, I'm guessing is a fear of judgment and resentment. Those suppressed emotions of mine still very much exist, but until I become quite familiar and comfortable with a person, they stay hidden. The first to come out are usually of the laughter and joy veriety, but even more familiarity starts bringing out my more critical side, particularly those of the "helping" verity ("why did you do that?!" "no, don't do that..." "you're doing it wrong!, do it like this" "oy vey, what'd you do now..." and etc.),

This is all completely normal for real life. But this is the online world. Here were are anonymous. Here we need not fear resentment or judgement. Here we have the complete power to do and say as we please and be as "hot-blooded" as we want to be. This place (the internet in general not specifically the dolphin forums) is more about the exchange of ideas than about making friends. And that is why we see so much "hot-bloodedness" here as you call it.

Quote:So I guess you could say I'm a hybrid of what Japanese-fandom called "kuudere" and "tsundere" - an outer layer of "kuu", a middle "tsun", and a deeper "dere". Kuutsundere perhaps?[/spoil]

I have no idea what those are since I have no interest in japanese culture.

Quote:tl;dr - we need to stop quoting each-other. I mean, what's this got to do with Dolphin and CPUs?

This is my thread. Feel free to talk about whatever you want here, nobody will stop you. I am of the opinion that online communities should have total freedom for anyone to say anything that they want anywhere they want regardless of whether it's stupid, off-topic, offensive, pointless, or incorrect. Structure and rules belong in rl, not online.

(10-19-2012, 05:21 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]

Considering this is how I feel towards myself... yeah, that's a pretty good sum-up of me.

That's my "I don't know how to respond to this" reaction image.

1. I think it's kind of odd to be talking about your sexuality on a public forum. Not that I really care all that much, it's just not information that people normally want to give away.
2. "Straight male or lesbian in a male body" makes no sense for a number of reasons.

Then there is this:

Quote:but even then there's still the more "delicate" emotions that never really see the light of day... (literally) Let's just say water has flowed onto my pillow at night several times in the past.

To which the above image applies to even more thoroughly (but I didn't want to post it twice). That's REALLY personal for a public forum. Once again not that I mind I just don't understand why someone would be comfortable with saying that in a public setting unless they were using a throwaway account name (which you're not).

.....I think I might be going too far here by pointing these things out.

I think that info doesn't feel personal for me because it has been suppressed so much in real life for various judgmental reasons (particularly in my immediate family) that hardly exist on the common-side of the internet. In other words, I find the internet much more accepting, but that may be because forums are moderated so "haters" get moderated.

The sexuality thing is just a "covering my bases" because some people will just think I'm gay (and have previously), so I need to point that out. The "lesbian" thing is kind of a half-joke, the idea is that if I seem to act like a gay man without actually being homosexual, then perhaps I am instead a woman in a male body (like a transexual), but since I feel no attraction to males that would make me a lesbian, hence "lesbian male". (I didn't invert the term)

Lets try to stay on-topic now guys.

I wondered about the topic, but NaturalViolence said he didn't care.

Quote:Lets try to stay on-topic now guys.

Why? He's not hurting anyone. We're just having a friendly conversation here. This is my thread and I'm ok with it, it doesn't change the info. in the OP (which is the only reason why this thread exists) and this is not a question/answer thread. So there is no harm in any of this.