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Not all religious people are dumb. The ones who just accept ideas blindly because someone else says that's the thing a good [insert name of religion here] person should think are, though, and these days they seem to be in the majority.

Also, I'm not sure what you've heard, Garteal, but when I last checked, pretty much all of Darwin's theory of evolution is still considered correct.

(10-18-2013, 05:23 AM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]Human evolution (Darwin) is complete garbage.
And you're ignorant if you only dub religious people ignorant. Most people on the planet are ignorant.

Ignorance is also subjective; for the religious for example, it's what they believe and the correct thing in their eyes, while in other people their eyes it's ignorance.

Religious Beliefs induces a form of Self-Righteousness.. as i can see with you.. the Bible is Correct, every book without the "Bible" label is incorrect.

Religion is nothing more then a big-scam designed to steal money from the Ignorant .
Christians also have Faith-Healing crap where people come along to listen to this Man who claims to heal then right at then end , he asks for Money/Credit Card details... they make tons of Money
many faith-healers live in mansions.

Scientology, the Oxymoron Religion also makes huge profits, the Catholic Church makes profits
Christian churches makes profits via Baptisms, Funerals, Marriages, Sunday Schools, Collection Plates and donations(=stealing).

(10-18-2013, 05:50 AM)Gir Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-18-2013, 05:23 AM)Garteal Wrote: [ -> ]Human evolution (Darwin) is complete garbage.
And you're ignorant if you only dub religious people ignorant. Most people on the planet are ignorant.

Ignorance is also subjective; for the religious for example, it's what they believe and the correct thing in their eyes, while in other people their eyes it's ignorance.

Religious Beliefs induces a form of Self-Righteousness.. as i can see with you.. the Bible is Correct, every book without the "Bible" label is incorrect.

Religion is nothing more then a big-scam designed to steal money from the Ignorant .
Christians also have Faith-Healing crap where people come along to listen to this Man who claims to heal then right at then end , he asks for Money/Credit Card details... they make tons of Money
many faith-healers live in mansions.

Scientology, the Oxymoron Religion also makes huge profits, the Catholic Church makes profits
Christian churches makes profits via Baptisms, Funerals, Marriages, Sunday Schools, Collection Plates and donations(=stealing).

What you just said is absolutely garbage. That's the worst case of generalization I've ever seen in my life. You obviously know nothing about what your talking about. Please actually research before you say things like that.

<rage>
After thinking hard about the nature of religion, I realized that we have a very big problem.

First of all, maybe religion is a fundamental bug of human nature in most people, maybe their "need" of "confidence", fear of death, etc.
I don't know if it was made up to reassure people on their newly evolved intelligence that brought with it the ability to think about death and life, made up to increase the power of kings and "priests", or invented as an explanation for the then-mysterious. Either way, it has been around since the stone age/early civilization, used for all 3 purposes.
Christianity in particular, is essentially worship of a specific book written ~2000 or more years ago. It essentially states that there is a god that is kind to everyone, created all evil, humanity, and also has complete control over everything, yet cannot control people.

Ignoring at the obvious contradictions, <!--ouch, never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down... --> there's no evidence, no proof of it, yet billions of people still follow a book written in an ignorant age with a highly limited knowledge of science? Despite that the book has been proven wrong many times already? (The great thing about science is that it's always improving)

So, you'll say that God's lying to us by planting false evidence?? Uh... no?

And the leprechauns. Everyone knows that leprechauns don't exist. Same with all the Mayan gods. We know that they don't exist, because they're silly, because we have no evidence that they exist. But modern Christians/Muslims/whatever <!--should be using a throwaway account, death threats? --> they believe in an omniscient being that knows everything, can do anything, but there is absolutely ZERO evidence, other than that book (bible/etc.). It's going to be a long battle against deliberate ignorance and the near-delusion. (also read my signature)

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com

Maybe I shouldn't think too much, as it's going to depress me. Maybe I shouldn't think too much about the pointlessess of life, as it's going to depress me more. Maybe I shouldn't think about human mortality on long, sleepless nights, as... The only good thing about death is that I won't know it happened. Maybe humanity is doomed... maybe it doesn't matter, as far as my ball-o-neurons cares.
</rage>
(delaychain + tor? will there ever be a high-latency buffer system?)

(10-18-2013, 05:55 AM)DatKid20 Wrote: [ -> ]What you just said is absolutely garbage. That's the worst case of generalization I've ever seen in my life. You obviously know nothing about what your talking about. Please actually research before you say things like that.

I have done many years of research...I know many religions on the inside out... Such as, how they make Money... Religious Leaders will never honestly say how they make money.

Even someone like the "Pope" or "Dalai Lama".. because our so-called "Heroes" are chosen for us
but the truth is that they are Frauds and liars.

Even Darwin believed that there was a higher being. Maybe people think that Darwin was a atheist or something.

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(10-18-2013, 06:02 AM)Gir Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-18-2013, 05:55 AM)DatKid20 Wrote: [ -> ]What you just said is absolutely garbage. That's the worst case of generalization I've ever seen in my life. You obviously know nothing about what your talking about. Please actually research before you say things like that.

I have done many years of research...I know many religions on the inside out... Such as, how they make Money... Religious Leaders will never honestly say how they make money.

Even someone like the "Pope" or "Dalai Lama".. because our so-called "Heroes" are chosen for us
but the truth is that they are Frauds and liars.

The Pope is a obvious fake. The Catholic Church worships Mary who if you have actually read the bible is a person. She is never mentioned to be God. Also the commandments obviously say "Thou shalt not have any gods before me" They conflict with what they believe.

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(10-18-2013, 05:55 AM)jimbo1qaz Wrote: [ -> ]<rage>
After thinking hard about the nature of religion, I realized that we have a very big problem.

First of all, maybe religion is a fundamental bug of human nature in most people, maybe their "need" of "confidence", fear of death, etc.
I don't know if it was made up to reassure people on their newly evolved intelligence that brought with it the ability to think about death and life, made up to increase the power of kings and "priests", or invented as an explanation for the then-mysterious. Either way, it has been around since the stone age/early civilization, used for all 3 purposes.
Christianity in particular, is essentially worship of a specific book written ~2000 or more years ago. It essentially states that there is a god that is kind to everyone, created all evil, humanity, and also has complete control over everything, yet cannot control people.

Ignoring at the obvious contradictions, <!--ouch, never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down... --> there's no evidence, no proof of it, yet billions of people still follow a book written in an ignorant age with a highly limited knowledge of science? Despite that the book has been proven wrong many times already? (The great thing about science is that it's always improving)

So, you'll say that God's lying to us by planting false evidence?? Uh... no?

And the leprechauns. Everyone knows that leprechauns don't exist. Same with all the Mayan gods. We know that they don't exist, because they're silly, because we have no evidence that they exist. But modern Christians/Muslims/whatever <!--should be using a throwaway account, death threats? --> they believe in an omniscient being that knows everything, can do anything, but there is absolutely ZERO evidence, other than that book (bible/etc.). It's going to be a long battle against deliberate ignorance and the near-delusion. (also read my signature)

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com

Maybe I shouldn't think too much, as it's going to depress me. Maybe I shouldn't think too much about the pointlessess of life, as it's going to depress me more. Maybe I shouldn't think about human mortality on long, sleepless nights, as... The only good thing about death is that I won't know it happened. Maybe humanity is doomed... maybe it doesn't matter, as far as my ball-o-neurons cares.
</rage>
(delaychain + tor? will there ever be a high-latency buffer system?)

Your signature makes absolutely no sense. If it was a invisible teapot then it would make sense.

(10-18-2013, 06:03 AM)DatKid20 Wrote: [ -> ]Even Darwin believed that there was a higher being. Maybe people think that Darwin was a atheist or something.

What about the Higher-Higher being ? We are Human Beings , so when we say "Higher Being"
then its a psychological projection , because we Humans created things like Buildings/Computers
then the Universe must require a Builder.. So we imagine that "Builder" and give him "Human Attributes" so this "Builder" is a Man, He as a Son, he Walks and talks , he sends us gifts but its all in the head and is dangerous as it can manifest into Schizophrenia.

(10-18-2013, 06:13 AM)Gir Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-18-2013, 06:03 AM)DatKid20 Wrote: [ -> ]Even Darwin believed that there was a higher being. Maybe people think that Darwin was a atheist or something.

What about the Higher-Higher being ? We are Human Beings , so when we say "Higher Being"
then its a psychological projection , because we Humans created things like Buildings/Computers
then the Universe must require a Builder.. So we imagine that "Builder" and give him "Human Attributes" so this "Builder" is a Man, He as a Son, he Walks and talks , he sends us gifts but its all in the head and is dangerous as it can manifest into Schizophrenia.

So what you said was Darwin was boderline Schizophrenic or was Schizophrenic?

(10-18-2013, 06:16 AM)DatKid20 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-18-2013, 06:13 AM)Gir Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-18-2013, 06:03 AM)DatKid20 Wrote: [ -> ]Even Darwin believed that there was a higher being. Maybe people think that Darwin was a atheist or something.

What about the Higher-Higher being ? We are Human Beings , so when we say "Higher Being"
then its a psychological projection , because we Humans created things like Buildings/Computers
then the Universe must require a Builder.. So we imagine that "Builder" and give him "Human Attributes" so this "Builder" is a Man, He as a Son, he Walks and talks , he sends us gifts but its all in the head and is dangerous as it can manifest into Schizophrenia.

So what you said was Darwin was boderline Schizophrenic or was Schizophrenic?

Christians and Schizophrenics are very similar with there fervent acceptance
of imaginary friends as real entities.

Darwin lives in different times, Darwin from Birth was conditioned with Christianity
and went to Churches but using reason and deductive thinking he shrugs most of the
Brain-Disease and wrote a Science Book.

So what your telling me is Evolution is believed by people with Schizophrenic tendacies and Christianity is believed by people with Schizophrenia. Makes perfect sense.