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(05-26-2012, 02:20 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:On an old-school CRT TV, 480i/480p looks awesome (near-HD quality)

"So blurry you can barely tell what you're looking at" is near HD quality? CRTs can make a low resolution image look smoother which is preferable to "sharp with lots of scaling artifacts" (which is how low resolution content looks on an LCD) but they can't boost the actual image fidelity or achieve anything close to HD quality. A 600p game on an LCD is still going to look much better than a 480p game on a CRT.

1080p on 23" CRT display looks nicer though Smile Waaaay better colours without any lag, ghosting and stuff. But that's a professional display which was about 2k bucks back then and hard to get at all today and minimal ebay price is 850-1000.
For TVs, well most of modern LCD TVs use ugly TN displays, i'd prefer a bit lower resolution but better colours.
Also i have 32" CRT TV that can do even 1080p (one of the latest). It has only one disadvantage - it's BIG and heavy, so it's not easy to mount it on the wall Smile
(05-26-2012, 02:20 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:On an old-school CRT TV, 480i/480p looks awesome (near-HD quality)

"So blurry you can barely tell what you're looking at" is near HD quality? CRTs can make a low resolution image look smoother which is preferable to "sharp with lots of scaling artifacts" (which is how low resolution content looks on an LCD) but they can't boost the actual image fidelity or achieve anything close to HD quality. A 600p game on an LCD is still going to look much better than a 480p game on a CRT.

Near-HD resolution with fast moving images / games. The dynamic resolution of most LCD TVs is horrible.

480p on a small-sized high quality CRT TV still looks subjectively better in motion. No ghosting, no lag, free "anti-aliasing" and much better colors.

You need a high-quality 120Hz non-TN panel without picture processing @ 960p to match the image quality of the CRT TV.

Yeah, low-res games look a lot better on quality CRT, especially when it's RGB connection. And it's not only small-sized, 21" looks nicer too.
Also it's fully analog - no input lag at all.

Too bad those SED etc displays aren't here yet - same picture quality as high-end CRT but with all advantages of LCD - large and slim displays.
Quote:Does this look ugly? That's around 480p and it looks fine on my 32 inch monitor.

No. But then again it's not upscaled at all.

Quote:Near-HD resolution with fast moving images / games. The dynamic resolution of most LCD TVs is horrible.

This is just completely wrong.

Smoother motion is not the same thing as a higher dynamic resolution.

Quote:480p on a small-sized high quality CRT TV still looks subjectively better in motion.

Well yeah, because it's smaller and it's blurry. The blurrier the image is and the smaller your screen is the smoother the motion will look and the better low resolution content will look.

Quote:No ghosting, no lag, free "anti-aliasing" and much better colors.

Any decent LCD monitor made in the last year will have virtually no ghosting (low enough to be undetectable to the human eye) and very little input lag. That anti-aliasing as you call it is just the result of a blurry image that makes aliasing harder to see.

CRTs do have better color/contrast though.

Quote:You need a high-quality 120Hz non-TN panel without picture processing @ 960p to match the image quality of the CRT TV.

That would have HIGHER ghosting since TN panels have extremely low response times compared to other panels.

The difference in image quality is so small between high end CRTs and LCDs that a 600p video on an LCD will look MASSIVELY better than a 480p video on a CRT.

A CRT isn't going to magically make 480i/p content look nearly as good as HD content. That would require adding resolution/detail that wasn't there to begin with, which is impossible.

HackRabbit

hey, ive got a:
HP Envy 14"
Windows 7 64-Bit
Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz
Memory (RAM) 6.00 GB
Radeon ™ HD 6630M

Can i run skyward sword? If so, what settings can I get a stable 30FPS on?
(05-29-2012, 02:38 PM)HackRabbit Wrote: [ -> ]Can i run skyward sword?

Yes
(05-29-2012, 02:38 PM)HackRabbit Wrote: [ -> ]If so, what settings can I get a stable 30FPS on?
Never going to happen , maybe 25-27FPS on NTSC version (max = 30 FPS) and 20-22 FPS on Pal version(max = 25FPS) if you're lucky

HackRabbit

(05-29-2012, 02:45 PM)admin89 Wrote: [ -> ]Never going to happen , maybe 25-27FPS on NTSC version (max = 30 FPS) and 20-22 FPS on Pal version(max = 25FPS) if you're lucky

So what settings would you recommend for this? At one point, i used to be able to run it on my pc at pretty good framerates even in battle scenes an such, i dont know what happened. But maybe that was like a stable 27 and not a stable 30.

Your CPU can turbo to 2.6Ghz on 2 cores and 2.6Ghz is not enough for full speed . You need a better CPU (3.0Ghz or higher)
Seriously, just buy a fucking Wii. Getting a PC to actually run Dolphin is so expensive. XD

Buy a wii, and mod it, then make backups of all the games you already own and play them via disc or USB. Easy!
(05-30-2012, 05:26 PM)stallosaur Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously, just buy a fucking Wii. Getting a PC to actually run Dolphin is so expensive. XD

Buy a wii, and mod it, then make backups of all the games you already own and play them via disc or USB. Easy!

I know its an old thread, but just wanted to let everyone know.

Me making computer to run a fucking slow ass wii-game, but the emulator is so shitty that you need a damn super computer.
Price: At the bare minimum with shitty FPS
400$

Me buying a wii, controllers, modding it, and getting 1000s of games ready to play on it. (What I did)
50$

Price for 480p component cables (no up-scaling)
15$

Who in there right minds would build a super computer to play a real low-end game? Make the emulator faster OR JUST BUY A WII!

Sure every now and again there are some jagged lines, BUT IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD! The games are fucking amazing, and it shouldn't have to be about graphics, EVER. Think about 8-bit, Mario was STILL fun!
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