I was referring to the fact that there are no options for people who actually prefer desktop computers, and would never go for a laptop, and that there was nothing referring to the price, such as "Me and many other people cannot afford an equivalent laptop to my desktop, so I'll go for desktop" type options. That would have been the option I'd have expected to be most popular, and although it is kind of like option 4, there are some options which are similar but which laptop supports only would use. I'd quote them, but there's no way to read while typing except opening a new tab, but I'm typing, and the mouse is miles away, because the keyboard is on my lap.
Edit: Hang on, is Laptops aren't good for everything meant to say that, because that isn't what I read it as first time around. (I read it as laptops are good for everything.)
When reading the title, i thought this was some forever alone omegle conversation between his own laptop and pc
I have a professional laptop as well as a monster desktop.... and trust me, it's nice having a powerful desktop when messing with Photoshop and CryEngine.
For those who picked the second option, I'd like to hear some solid arguments for what it is exactly that the laptop SlickDragon was talking about in the first post is not capable of doing that a desktop only is. Some answers have already been given, but lets go through them so I can get unconfused.
zurginator is implying that I cannot use Photoshop and CryEngine with a top-of-the-line laptop like an i7 3920xm and a 7970m? Lets be serious and try to think about it, when I power up that laptop, you'd better be sure that it is physically impossible for whatever reason and that the laptop in question is just not able to perform whatever task you're about to list. That would be the only way you could justify picking the second poll option, so lets hear it. Who knows, maybe I'll be all about desktops after hearing all these reasons, or maybe not.
He didn't say you couldn't, he just said it is better
(04-27-2012, 04:13 AM)ExtremeDude2 Wrote: [ -> ]He didn't say you couldn't, he just said it is better
Agreed. To me, the poll option implies that the voters don't necessarily feel that laptops aren't capable of a certain tasks, rather they're not "good" at them. To them, it's more about the level of that ability, not whether that ability exists.
Laptops are perfectly capable of Photoshop or CryEngine, but those voters feel it's not as optimal as it is on the desktop. Like NV said, it's the same technology, just in a different package, the form factor. They can largely do the same things. If we were talking about tablets and desktops, it'd be different though. I think the differences ultimately come down to how the form factor handles a given problem, in which case some people will validly feel one is better suited than another.
Keyboard ergonomics is important to a lot of users with carpal tunnel (or those who want to avoid it) and those with repetitive strain injuries. For many, wrist pads beneath the keyboard aren't enough, so an new ergonomic keyboard is required. With a desktop, users need only buy a new keyboard to replace the old one. The laptop, however, requires users to plug in a secondary keyboard, which must be accounted for in terms of placement and space.
Users could place the keyboard directly on top of the laptop's keyboard. Or they could place it in front of the laptop, while increasing the distance to the screen and the actual machine. Either method sacrifices some measure of ease-of-use, or at the very least comes off as awkward. Nevertheless getting keyboard ergonomics to work with a desktop and laptop are both equally doable. In this case, however, one could easily feel that a specific form factor is more optimal than others.
(04-27-2012, 05:00 AM)Shonumi Wrote: [ -> ]Keyboard ergonomics is important to a lot of users with carpal tunnel (or those who want to avoid it) and those with repetitive strain injuries. For many, wrist pads beneath the keyboard aren't enough, so an new ergonomic keyboard is required. With a desktop, users need only buy a new keyboard to replace the old one. The laptop, however, requires users to plug in a secondary keyboard, which must be accounted for in terms of placement and space.
Users could place the keyboard directly on top of the laptop's keyboard. Or they could place it in front of the laptop, while increasing the distance to the screen and the actual machine. Either method sacrifices some measure of ease-of-use, or at the very least comes off as awkward. Nevertheless getting keyboard ergonomics to work with a desktop and laptop are both equally doable. In this case, however, one could easily feel that a specific form factor is more optimal than others.
I'm not really following that too much. Keyboard? That's the reason? That's a really weak excuse to use a desktop over a laptop, but okay, if that's your preference, I can live with that.
He said it's "better" and the poll option is worded as "laptops aren't good for everything", but the laptop processor is every bit as good as his desktop processor in this case, so he must not be talking about the CPU. So what exactly is "better"? I can lay the laptop on the desk, turn it on and do exactly what he's going to do, so what am I missing? I just really want to get to the bottom of where this is coming from and so far, there is no satisfying answer. Somehow I have a feeling that people still have the age-old misconception about laptops and are just not able to get away from that argument for whatever reason even though it makes no sense anymore. Maybe things will become more clear as others post and then this thread can come to its eventual end.
One of the things is that if we could afford that laptop, most of us may actually get a better desktop, and a large television (maybe a 3D one).
(04-27-2012, 05:16 AM)Starscream Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not really following that too much. Keyboard? That's the reason? That's a really weak excuse to use a desktop over a laptop, but okay, if that's your preference, I can live with that.
I in no way claimed that is why I would choose desktops over laptops. Furthermore, I have voted option 4, meaning I use whichever fits my needs. As with today, I use all three of my primary devices (desktop, laptop, iPod) depending on what I'm doing. I am using this as a demonstration to prove why people can view one form factor as more optimal based on their needs.
Additionally, ergonomics is very important to a number of users, chiefly the two groups I mentioned (those with RSI and carpal tunnel syndrome). To them, a good keyboard setup makes all the difference in being able to use any computer in any capacity. Both groups can suffer from great pain if they don't have the proper peripherals. Ergonomics for computing is, in general, significant to many users and should not be easily discounted when considering any given form factor.
(04-27-2012, 05:16 AM)Starscream Wrote: [ -> ]He said it's "better" and the poll option is worded as "laptops aren't good for everything", but the laptop processor is every bit as good as his desktop processor in this case, so he must not be talking about the CPU. So what exactly is "better"? I can lay the laptop on the desk, turn it on and do exactly what he's going to do, so what am I missing? I just really want to get to the bottom of where this is coming from and so far, there is no satisfying answer. Somehow I have a feeling that people still have the age-old misconception about laptops and are just not able to get away from that argument for whatever reason. Maybe things will become more clear as others post and this thread can come to its eventual end.
As NV said, it's not an issue of hardware, so I too don't think anyone here is trying to (or should) argue which one has superior specs. The issue is how the form factor handles things. I am not zurginator, not have I ever Photoshop and CryEngine in any meaningful way, so I can't answer for his response. I will, however, say that people can validly feel one form factor is more ably equipped to handle certain situations than another, as I pointed out with the keyboard example.
Some people will contend that they can't simply lay a laptop on a desk and proceed to use that as a desktop due to their specific usage and needs. Though I do hope they provide examples and explanations rather than just saying "I can't do it" or "It won't work like that".
(04-27-2012, 05:40 AM)Shonumi Wrote: [ -> ]I too don't think anyone here is trying to (or should) argue which one has superior specs. The issue is how the form factor handles things.
I think that
is the main concern. If you look back at some posts in this thread, you'll find more than a few stating that they feel like desktops have better specs and
that is the reason they would not choose a laptop (and is the main reason behind the second poll answer). Obviously my argument only holds up with the best of the best laptop right now, but those high-end laptops will start to become more common as time goes on, and cost less. People here mostly see users with i7's (or much worse) and IGP's complaining about slow game speeds every day, naturally people would get the idea that laptops aren't good for gaming seeing that 20 times a day with laptops not designed for playing games.