11-09-2012, 10:36 AM
11-09-2012, 02:16 PM
(11-09-2012, 10:36 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]I hope you figure it out. If you need any help you know where to find us.Thanks for all the advice, and sorry for sort of derailing the thread too.
I don't like to jump the gun but so far everything is good now. Since I installed my spare 40GB hard drive and set up a fresh windows on it on it as my primary boot device, I haven't had a single black screen. This after browsing the web heavily and loading tons of large pictures and running plenty of flash videos. And I still have the previous hard drive hooked up as a secondary drive (just not the boot one).
I gather having separate drives for both OSes and other data is an ideal setup to have anyways. I've been living in the stone age only using a single hard drive for both Windows and misc data. Seems like having two is what people like to do nowadays. If anything happens to Windows, I can easily just rewrite my Windows hard drive and keep my other data intact on the other hard drive. Just glad things are working fine so far. I'll build myself a more competent PC soon, but i'm glad i'm not pressured to do it immediately. I'm waiting patiently to see what Haswell has in store before making the jump into Intel hardware anyways.
And on an unrelated note, just discovered that the same PC I found my spare HDD in also actually had spare ram as well that was compatible with this Dell (DDR2). Put the extra modules in the PC i'm using now and went from 2GB to 3GB. Won't matter much in Dolphin but it's helping in other tasks already!

I'll try not to bump this anymore since things are better now. Not that I was ever ontopic to being with. Again sorry about that.
Slightly more relevant, I can confirm that D3D11 in Dolphin is still considerably slower than D3D9 on the 7750, using the latest beta Radeon drivers. So no improvements there. Boo.
11-09-2012, 04:16 PM
Quote:I'm waiting patiently to see what Haswell has in store before making the jump into Intel hardware anyways.
Your signature says that you're using an Intel cpu. You might want to update that.
11-09-2012, 05:44 PM
(11-09-2012, 04:16 PM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the reminder, just tended to that. My Lenovo laptop is broken. The plastic casing started getting cracks around the hinges. And parts of the motherboard ended up sustaining damage from what I'm assuming is broken bits of plastic grinding around inside somehow. Recently some of the broken plastic partially severed the display cable (so the laptop display doesn't work). I can power it on when hooked to an external display at least and still use it somewhat. But it's useless for gaming. The GPU appears to have gotten damaged in the process somehow (PC glitches out and freezes upon boot with any drivers other than generic Windows ones). Plus I have to put the CPU in its slowest state or else the laptop actually overheats and shuts off. It's useless for gaming. It literally fell apart over just a couple of years. Disappointing especially because I've heard many people consider Lenovo a fantastic brand. I don't mistreat my computers either. I guess I got a lemon or something, meh.Quote:I'm waiting patiently to see what Haswell has in store before making the jump into Intel hardware anyways.
Your signature says that you're using an Intel cpu. You might want to update that.
I'm stuck with my current signature's PC for now, which is at least perfectly serviceable in non-Dolphin tasks. The 7750 is actually far better than my laptop's 5730 was, it handles games admirable for such a cheap and low-wattage GPU. I've contemplated getting Sandy or Ivy Bridge, but I decided i'd at least wait till Haswell is out and see how it does for performance and overclocking before deciding on a new mobo/cpu/ram/etc. Even if it ends up being a dud and I end up going with Ivy, in no hurry.
11-10-2012, 04:59 AM
Some things you might want to know:
1. Haswell is going to blow the socks off ivy bridge IPC wise (and therefore performance wise). Even with no chip to test yet the architecture changes they are making all point towards higher IPC. They're promising much higher IPC and historically Intel has always delivered on those promises.
2. Haswell is an incremental architecture that adds improvements to the previous architecture. Historically IPC always goes up when this happens. The only time Intel and AMD have seen lower IPC than the previous generation is when they tried to design a totally new architecture.
3. Even if it didn't, historically Intel has never produced a cpu series that was slower than its predecessor (despite the pentium 4 haters who would have you believe otherwise).
4. DDR3 RAM is going to be even cheaper by then and haswell motherboards will be the cheapest motherboards yet since a lot of the stuff that used to be on the motherboard is being integrated into the cpu now.
5. It's very likely that haswell will have a high price tag though.
6. It may or may not OC well, that we don't know yet.
7. Ivy bridge prices won't go down when haswell comes out.
With the exception of first generation pentium 4s from Intel (netburst) and first generation FX series from AMD (bulldozer) we haven't seen situations where it would be advisable not to upgrade to the current cpu lineup and upgrade to an older cpu lineup instead.
1. Haswell is going to blow the socks off ivy bridge IPC wise (and therefore performance wise). Even with no chip to test yet the architecture changes they are making all point towards higher IPC. They're promising much higher IPC and historically Intel has always delivered on those promises.
2. Haswell is an incremental architecture that adds improvements to the previous architecture. Historically IPC always goes up when this happens. The only time Intel and AMD have seen lower IPC than the previous generation is when they tried to design a totally new architecture.
3. Even if it didn't, historically Intel has never produced a cpu series that was slower than its predecessor (despite the pentium 4 haters who would have you believe otherwise).
4. DDR3 RAM is going to be even cheaper by then and haswell motherboards will be the cheapest motherboards yet since a lot of the stuff that used to be on the motherboard is being integrated into the cpu now.
5. It's very likely that haswell will have a high price tag though.
6. It may or may not OC well, that we don't know yet.
7. Ivy bridge prices won't go down when haswell comes out.
With the exception of first generation pentium 4s from Intel (netburst) and first generation FX series from AMD (bulldozer) we haven't seen situations where it would be advisable not to upgrade to the current cpu lineup and upgrade to an older cpu lineup instead.
11-10-2012, 08:07 AM
Yep, I had heard Haswell was probably going to be a really slick upgrade as far as Intel goes. I'm pretty much fed up with AMD's CPU's by now. And yeah I don't expect Ivy to come down in price, I'm likely to want Haswell anyways. If it doesn't overclock as well, but can still match a Ivy 4.2gbz or Sandy 4.5ghz at just its out of the box stock speeds, then overclocking limitations won't be that big of a deal. I dunno whether it's powerful enough to match those overclocked CPU's at even its stock speed though. We'll probably know soon enough.
Didn't know motherboards would end up being cheaper. Memory I can understand though, seems like it has been dropping by leaps and bounds lately. Hopefully that will sort of cover the cost if Haswell ends up being more expensive (i've heard that it will as well).
Didn't know motherboards would end up being cheaper. Memory I can understand though, seems like it has been dropping by leaps and bounds lately. Hopefully that will sort of cover the cost if Haswell ends up being more expensive (i've heard that it will as well).
11-10-2012, 08:10 AM
(11-10-2012, 04:59 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]7. Ivy bridge prices won't go down when haswell comes out.This can depend a bit. My preferred retailer knocked $30 off the 2500k when ivy was released and was therefore a good buy.
However they seems to cost the same around here now.
11-10-2012, 08:12 AM
(11-10-2012, 04:59 AM)NaturalViolence Wrote: [ -> ]Some things you might want to know:That is in Broadwell afaik
4. DDR3 RAM is going to be even cheaper by then and haswell motherboards will be the cheapest motherboards yet since a lot of the stuff that used to be on the motherboard is being integrated into the cpu now.
11-10-2012, 04:13 PM
I didn't even list any specific parts. Every Intel cpu since nehalem has increased system integration and that trend will continue into the future. Haswell is integrated a bunch of additional stuff into the cpu die and then broadwell will likely integrate things even further.
@cluthz
But the MSRP doesn't change. The retailer will only drop prices if they're trying to clear inventory. Intel always just replaces its lineup with faster cpus that cost the same but continues selling the old cpus at the same cost for people upgrading on older systems.
@cluthz
But the MSRP doesn't change. The retailer will only drop prices if they're trying to clear inventory. Intel always just replaces its lineup with faster cpus that cost the same but continues selling the old cpus at the same cost for people upgrading on older systems.
11-11-2012, 05:13 PM
Word is Haswell is putting the VRM on die (might limit OC'ing) and some SKU's will have on die RAM for the GPU.